not fully apples to apples for your original question. I ride a 2013 1199 base model with Ohlins cartridge inserts up front and a TTX on the rear. I spent a fair amount of time to get the sag set up correctly for me (tall heavy guy). To just walk up to the bike and push on the suspension you'd think it was stiff, but at speed on the track it works very well. I only run the track with this bikes and thus far only on pirelli slicks. The bike handles extremely well and always feel planted. I've been on the pirelli's for so long I dont even notice the squirm that these have - it's just normal now. About the only thing I notice is that when coming out of slow corners onto long straights I'll get a little weave as I'm hard on the throttle and climbing back on top of the bike - more an issue with my technique than anything else. I'm a mid pack club racer so I am moving at a good clip. Anyway, long story to confirm that when set up for your needs these bikes will handle very well.
Handling differences between my 1199S and R1--need some understanding--
- Thread starter greggiacona
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1199 is meant to be ridden differently than an R1. R1 riding is done like most 600 cc bikes. Smooth with reasonable trail braking. Nothing abrupt. The way you would ride if you were defending your inside line. The 1199 is ridden like a liter bike. Late trail braking into a late apex. Aggressive turn in at that point and then aggressively straightening out for the exit. You would ride that way if you didnt have anyone on the inside of your line. Very little time spent using maintenance throttle.
So, the 1199 is deliberately sprung light on the front and stiff on the rear. This requires track tires and pressures. Meaning soft carcass and low pressure in the rear.
Once you understand the two riding techniques you'll be better in both bikes.
So, the 1199 is deliberately sprung light on the front and stiff on the rear. This requires track tires and pressures. Meaning soft carcass and low pressure in the rear.
Once you understand the two riding techniques you'll be better in both bikes.
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