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Got the header wrap done. Unfortunately will have to wait until spring to see if it helps with the heat. Bigger job than I though, but I am learning that is the Ducati way.
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I did mine last season, but not sure if I could really tell the difference. Did you replace the headers? There is a recall on them


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Hey ArcticWhite, how hard is it to just remove the plastic OEM, shield off the tin one? Does it unbolt without having to remove the tank or lift the rear subframe?
Posted this question in another post but no reply, thanks in advance
 
To get the plastic off, everything has to come apart. Rear subframe has to be lifted or removed. Putting a carbon cover on would mean doing the work pictured above.

These bikes are more difficult to do simple things on than other bikes.

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Looking at installing a carbon ilmberger shield in place of the OEM plastic shield but didn't realise the extent of the work required just to remove the plastic
 
Looking at installing a carbon ilmberger shield in place of the OEM plastic shield but didn't realise the extent of the work required just to remove the plastic
I hear you. I was shocked at the work just to replace the windscreen. As most of the bike had to come apart, I figured I may as well do everything at once so I am not pulling things apart multiple times.

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I have the ilmberger on my bike and it is one of the easiest carbon additions to install. You should not have any issues with it. Simply unbolt the oem plastic one and bolt the new carbon one on with supplied hardware.

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Maybe someone knows a trick I do not. Here is what I know for sure:

The tank HAS to come off. There are wires cable tied to the plastic exhaust cover as well as two screws on top that hold it to the metal cover underneath. The only way those come out is by removing the tank.

Then, I tried to pull out the plastic cover. I could not pull it back, because of the way it is bent around by the shock. It has to be picked up to remove. But the subframe prevents moving the cover up. Therefore I had to remove the subframe.

So, there may be some special way to twist the cover out of there without subframe removal (didn't look like it to me). At a minimum the tank is coming off.

What I would say after doing this, don't be afraid of it. Everything is relatively easy to do, just time consuming.

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That’s both, front and rear, replacement is much thicker


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Wrapping headers sounds like a terrible idea. Trapping heat underneath the wrap doesn't sound ideal when dealing with metals. Obviously that heat needs to escape. I don't know exactly how hot the headers get but I'm sure it's pretty damn hot. Wrapping seems like it would weaken the metal and the end result probably being what the image above shows. I could be wrong.
 
I'm not an expert with bike exhaust dynamics, I do have 30 years experience as an Aircraft engineer and all piston aero engine exhausts are 'tuned' using lengths and shapes to manipulate exhaust gas flow which is also manipulated with temperatures for example if 2 cylinders have varying lengths pipes due to an installation design engineers need to manipulate the velocity of the exhaust gas flow to 'tune' the escaping gas for optimal performance and back pressures, with the 1199 Panigale which I had the pleasure of owning for 7 years the heat shield on the rear cylinder loop served 2 purposes, 1 yes a some what useless heat sheild and 2 to also keep the exhaust gas temperature high in the loop to manipulate the velocity for tuning and to match the front pipe before entry to the cans.
Sorry to ramble in but for this I think that wrapping pipes could possibly mess with this principle and one can only guess as mentioned earlier by double0, the unknown of wrapping causing fatigue in the pipe material.
 
Taken from CycleWorld archives:

The original use of exhaust wrap was for cars, the idea being to keep underhood temperatures lower so the engine could have access to air that was less hot. It's hard on pipes. Wrap can cause excessive heat and hold and trap moisture and detritus against your exhaust, which will shorten the life of the exhausts

Pipe wrapping comes from NASCAR, where its purpose was to cheaply reduce temperature in well-filled engine bays. Its current use on custom bikes is a visual theme that builders apparently like, but it has no function. If you walk through racing paddocks at MotoGP or World Superbike events, you will see no woven fiberglass tape wrapped around pipes

Some years ago John Wittner (builder of Battle of the Twins Moto Guzzis) warned against the use of such wrapping on titanium pipes, which overheat, react with oxygen, and transform into a mass of loose yellow flakes. During the two-stroke era in 500cc Grand Prix, bikes appeared for the Japanese GP with pipes insulated by various means. This was done to meet new noise regulations. Later, it turned out to have undesired tuning effects so its use was discontinued
 
I have wrapped exhausts on different bikes for different reasons. Yes, what mhaddad showed can definitely be a consequence of wrapping headers. The trapped heat can cause metallurgy issues if the pipes get too hot.

For me, the benefits of reduced leg heat and reduced heat stress on the electronics is worth replacing the header if it fails.

Definitely good info and something to think about if you are considering wrapping.

Also there will not be tuning issues with 4 strokes. Two strokes are completely different and are much more sensitive to heat in the pipe with their expansion chambers.

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