This has nothing to do with the seat but where did you get that ducati corse sticker that you have on the bottom portion of the fairing? was it custom or did you actually buy it from somewhere
Installed the Luimoto seat cover tonight
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This has nothing to do with the seat but where did you get that ducati corse sticker that you have on the bottom portion of the fairing? was it custom or did you actually buy it from somewhere
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Funny you say that, I had mine on at the track today as well and not much improvement over the stock for slipperiness.
I guess I'll try the race seat as well now...is it less slippery?
Leathers will slide on any seat as they are apt to do...the Louimoto cover with Kevlar jeans sticks like glue on the the streets for spirited riding. Race seat for track...Louimoto for the street.
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Was just about to ask the same question. How difficult was it to put on? It's not starting to peel is it?
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it really easy just remove the underside film line it up press down just rub down each of the letters and carefully peal back the top film.
quality is very good and no they have not started to peel even in this "wet" summer we are having in the uk
it really easy just remove the underside film line it up press down just rub down each of the letters and carefully peal back the top film.
quality is very good and no they have not started to peel even in this "wet" summer we are having in the uk
Am I the only one that doesn't mind a seat I can slide around on? I find it way easier to get from side to side on the bike when hard cornering. I use my legs and core to stop from sliding into the tank on hard braking which takes the pressure off my arms and man junk.
Regarding the racing seat, I had it on for 10 minutes and didn't like the way it put me over the bike. I felt at my height (5' 11) it put way to much pressure on my arms and on this bike there is not much of a way to hold yourself up using your knees and the tank... maybe a better positioned rear set would solve that.
Regarding the racing seat, I had it on for 10 minutes and didn't like the way it put me over the bike. I felt at my height (5' 11) it put way to much pressure on my arms and on this bike there is not much of a way to hold yourself up using your knees and the tank... maybe a better positioned rear set would solve that.
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What about the red wheel striping? Where did you pick that up at?
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Yes, racing seat is less slippery, it does grip against the leathers. For me it was just a little too tall, so I cut the foam down about 1" shorter. Going to try that out next Monday at Putnam Park at the Post-Indy-GP track day!
We have a bunch of the racing seats in stock if anyone needs one:
http://www.motospecialties.com/store.asp?store=ducatiomaha&level=type2&type=Superbike&type1=1199 Panigale&type2=Seats
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Sweet !
Yes, racing seat is less slippery, it does grip against the leathers. For me it was just a little too tall, so I cut the foam down about 1" shorter. Going to try that out next Monday at Putnam Park at the Post-Indy-GP track day!
We have a bunch of the racing seats in stock if anyone needs one:
Sounds like you are a serious handyman with all that shaving foam off and remounting seat covers! Appreciate the offer on race seats and great you put it out there for folks. I have zero issues with anything regarding the "comfort" seat and find it true to it's name!
For kicks I am going to get the stock plywood seat sent up to Liumoto for some custom work and gel pad additions. I'll let them cut it up and fight with the material to get it over the stock seat cover and gel pads. They've been a true pleasure to deal with with fast comm. Gives the bike the extra Italian edge along with all the Italian made trinkets I've mounted!
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I haven't seen a race seat in person. It looks like it's mainly higher in front, is that the case or is it higher all over? I find just like with my streetfighter, the seat keeps my huevos squished against the tank.
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Lmao. No idea but I'm sure someone will respond to that one. I'm totally set and secure w comfort without any complaints!
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Yes it's taller across the board, but especially at the front so it creates a "flatter" seating surface than the stock seat which is slightly canted forward.
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Really? ugh. so installing the Luimoto Gold Gel is impossible?
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Yes, racing seat is less slippery, it does grip against the leathers. For me it was just a little too tall, so I cut the foam down about 1" shorter. Going to try that out next Monday at Putnam Park at the Post-Indy-GP track day!
We have a bunch of the racing seats in stock if anyone needs one:
Sounds like you are a serious handyman with all that shaving foam off and remounting seat covers! Appreciate the offer on race seats and great you put it out there for folks. I have zero issues with anything regarding the "comfort" seat and find it true to it's name!
For kicks I am going to get the stock plywood seat sent up to Liumoto for some custom work and gel pad additions. I'll let them cut it up and fight with the material to get it over the stock seat cover and gel pads. They've been a true pleasure to deal with with fast comm. Gives the bike the extra Italian edge along with all the Italian made trinkets I've mounted!
Hey gunny you got more coin than me I am doing that but got to do all the work myself. I kind of like that though helps me learn more about the bike and a sense of satisfaction doing things myself.
What are they charging you to do all that if you do not mind sharing.
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Nothing impossible you guys put man on the moon when I was eight.
(forget the math I am 51 now)
Anyway just rip off the cover rip off the foam apply lumigel then surround with new foam and then put cover back on. Easy I am getting some new foam from my local vehicle seat guys.
Luimoto Gel and Cover Install and Mini Review
First let me say if you intend to install the gel and cover I suggest that you follow the links below to read about the product and learn how to correctly install it.
Luimoto Gel Product Info
Luimoto Gel Installation Video
This install with patience and attention to detail only took a hour or two. Most of the time was because I was unfamiliar with the gel product or how to install it on this seat. The cover itself only takes about 20 min if just installing the cover alone.
The install on the pani seat is a little more difficult for three reasons. 1) The foam is bonded or rather molded onto the seat cover itself. Its unlikely that you will be able to remove the cover and reuse the foam. I was skeptical about this but when I tried myself I found it to be pretty much manufactured as a single piece, so the oem cover had to stay. 2) The result of this is the second difficulty...although the stock cover is thin, if installing the gel with the foam smoother or liner, the added bulk of the oem cover and luimoto liner make installing the new luimoto cover even more difficult. 3) When stapling the new cover on, I had to go through three pieces of fabric and then the plastic seat pan. That meant I needed a longer staple in some areas, shorter ones in less forgiving areas, and a new stronger better staple gun.
This means when installing the gel you will end up cutting through the cover, no need to remove it or the staples. Personally I removed the staples on the forward portion of the seat, as I thought it would be easier when putting new staples in so I wouldn't strike existing ones. I'm glad I did because on the back curve(cloth or elastic area near the back), that was in fact a small problem.
Also, unlike the video, I found it easier to use a sharp serrated kitchen knife or non serrated butchers knife to cut the gel. Serrated and smooth scissors didnt work that well for me. The gel is sticky all over, on the side too, which is great if you wanna stick the gel back together if you make a small mistake but not so great when you are trying to cut pieces off.
Ultimately it wasnt too bad installing the gel and cover myself...I have done many covers alone before but the gel was new for me. I would recommend both as since installing the gel I no longer notice the seat comfort or discomfort, where as before commuting was fine but after 100 mile ride my rear would hurt and I would have to shift my weight, and the new grip is excellent compared to the stock grip, although now its so good that if I want to make small adjustments I half to hop in the seat instead of just sliding back or sideways.
It really depends on what your wearing as with smooth leather you still slide, but with cloth outer wear your pretty much stuck in that spot unless your deliberate with your movements.
This pics illustrates how I laid out the rectangular but almost square piece of gel for maximum coverage. I know you don have to cover more than your butt, but I decided to use as much as possible and only up to the lines in the seat (no sharp bends or angles). I then cut it accordingly
After cutting the gel, I proceeded to trace the gel shape to the seat so I know where to cut. Fair warning, the seat gives up its shape a little after you cut through the cover and gut the foam. So cut well within your lines and fit the gel, if it doesnt fit keep expanding the ditch.
The process has begun, no turning back now. I have made a nice tight grid pattern, the smaller the squares the easier it is to remove them. FYI, I had a window scraper that would cut the same depth as the gel was thick. I just broke the surface and then dragged the blade with it flush to cover to make the cuts the correct depth.
Now you can see what I mean with the little squares, progress, its rough but its coming along. I took my time, knowing it would be work it when I finished, and made sure not to gouge to deep.
The ditch outline is finished and the depth is done roughly, just needs more smoothing and refinement. I did this by holding the blade perpendicular to the surface and then scratched the foam, similar to how you would with your nails scratch your head or your butt
The ditch is done and finished to my liking, time to install the gel
Gel installed, but, woops, notice how theres a little room all around. The seat let out a little bit, the foam in smaller in the ditch conformed to the curves, instead of sitting on top of the seat. Thats ok, like I said, the gel is sticky, so I cut a few pieces where I missed and stuck it back together. One other mistake I made is when I traced the gel I did it with the non stick white side down instead of up. Of course my cuts were perfectly symmetrical so...its in non critical areas and where there was any remaining space, I filled with very fine foam crumbs that I repurposed.
Here is the liner I was referring to, it hides all the edges and imperfections. Its a little thicker than the seat cover but stretches thin enough if you want. I put 3M spray on adhesive on both the bottom side of the cover and all over the seat. I waited till it got tacky and then proceeded to install with a good stretch of course. Then trimmed it up and reglued some of the edges after trimming so it was as clean as possible. You can stop here if you wanted but I dont think this material is very waterproof.
First let me say if you intend to install the gel and cover I suggest that you follow the links below to read about the product and learn how to correctly install it.
Luimoto Gel Product Info
Luimoto Gel Installation Video
This install with patience and attention to detail only took a hour or two. Most of the time was because I was unfamiliar with the gel product or how to install it on this seat. The cover itself only takes about 20 min if just installing the cover alone.
The install on the pani seat is a little more difficult for three reasons. 1) The foam is bonded or rather molded onto the seat cover itself. Its unlikely that you will be able to remove the cover and reuse the foam. I was skeptical about this but when I tried myself I found it to be pretty much manufactured as a single piece, so the oem cover had to stay. 2) The result of this is the second difficulty...although the stock cover is thin, if installing the gel with the foam smoother or liner, the added bulk of the oem cover and luimoto liner make installing the new luimoto cover even more difficult. 3) When stapling the new cover on, I had to go through three pieces of fabric and then the plastic seat pan. That meant I needed a longer staple in some areas, shorter ones in less forgiving areas, and a new stronger better staple gun.
This means when installing the gel you will end up cutting through the cover, no need to remove it or the staples. Personally I removed the staples on the forward portion of the seat, as I thought it would be easier when putting new staples in so I wouldn't strike existing ones. I'm glad I did because on the back curve(cloth or elastic area near the back), that was in fact a small problem.
Also, unlike the video, I found it easier to use a sharp serrated kitchen knife or non serrated butchers knife to cut the gel. Serrated and smooth scissors didnt work that well for me. The gel is sticky all over, on the side too, which is great if you wanna stick the gel back together if you make a small mistake but not so great when you are trying to cut pieces off.
Ultimately it wasnt too bad installing the gel and cover myself...I have done many covers alone before but the gel was new for me. I would recommend both as since installing the gel I no longer notice the seat comfort or discomfort, where as before commuting was fine but after 100 mile ride my rear would hurt and I would have to shift my weight, and the new grip is excellent compared to the stock grip, although now its so good that if I want to make small adjustments I half to hop in the seat instead of just sliding back or sideways.
It really depends on what your wearing as with smooth leather you still slide, but with cloth outer wear your pretty much stuck in that spot unless your deliberate with your movements.
This pics illustrates how I laid out the rectangular but almost square piece of gel for maximum coverage. I know you don have to cover more than your butt, but I decided to use as much as possible and only up to the lines in the seat (no sharp bends or angles). I then cut it accordingly
After cutting the gel, I proceeded to trace the gel shape to the seat so I know where to cut. Fair warning, the seat gives up its shape a little after you cut through the cover and gut the foam. So cut well within your lines and fit the gel, if it doesnt fit keep expanding the ditch.
The process has begun, no turning back now. I have made a nice tight grid pattern, the smaller the squares the easier it is to remove them. FYI, I had a window scraper that would cut the same depth as the gel was thick. I just broke the surface and then dragged the blade with it flush to cover to make the cuts the correct depth.
Now you can see what I mean with the little squares, progress, its rough but its coming along. I took my time, knowing it would be work it when I finished, and made sure not to gouge to deep.
The ditch outline is finished and the depth is done roughly, just needs more smoothing and refinement. I did this by holding the blade perpendicular to the surface and then scratched the foam, similar to how you would with your nails scratch your head or your butt
The ditch is done and finished to my liking, time to install the gel
Gel installed, but, woops, notice how theres a little room all around. The seat let out a little bit, the foam in smaller in the ditch conformed to the curves, instead of sitting on top of the seat. Thats ok, like I said, the gel is sticky, so I cut a few pieces where I missed and stuck it back together. One other mistake I made is when I traced the gel I did it with the non stick white side down instead of up. Of course my cuts were perfectly symmetrical so...its in non critical areas and where there was any remaining space, I filled with very fine foam crumbs that I repurposed.
Here is the liner I was referring to, it hides all the edges and imperfections. Its a little thicker than the seat cover but stretches thin enough if you want. I put 3M spray on adhesive on both the bottom side of the cover and all over the seat. I waited till it got tacky and then proceeded to install with a good stretch of course. Then trimmed it up and reglued some of the edges after trimming so it was as clean as possible. You can stop here if you wanted but I dont think this material is very waterproof.
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The finished product, looks clean and I am very happy with it. As others have said, its make the bike just a little more italian, is functional, visually clean and appealing. All of which the stock seat is not, except for maybe plain and clean
To clarify my the staple length comment, I used 3/8" staples on the area where a longer staple was ok, and the standard 1/4" staple in the thinner seat pan areas where it ran the risk of coming up through the cover
New tool, the heavy duty staple gun that made this possible. I actually had two other staples guns that werent up to the task, a powershot, and an old arrow
My opinion is that this cover is to a degree water proof or water resistant, as it has a plastic backing on the cloth portion. This cover is probably more vulnerable than the stock seat but only time will tell. Thats pretty much my only concern, that this seat cover can weather the years. Otherwise I like it very much, if you decide to get one, I pretty sure you will like it too
To clarify my the staple length comment, I used 3/8" staples on the area where a longer staple was ok, and the standard 1/4" staple in the thinner seat pan areas where it ran the risk of coming up through the cover
New tool, the heavy duty staple gun that made this possible. I actually had two other staples guns that werent up to the task, a powershot, and an old arrow
My opinion is that this cover is to a degree water proof or water resistant, as it has a plastic backing on the cloth portion. This cover is probably more vulnerable than the stock seat but only time will tell. Thats pretty much my only concern, that this seat cover can weather the years. Otherwise I like it very much, if you decide to get one, I pretty sure you will like it too
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