Is the 2020 mapping automatically applied to the '18/'19 V4's during service

As the title states, is the 2020 updated fuel mapping automatically applied to the 2018/2019 bikes during service? I'm aware the Evo 2 software can be purchased separately, I'm only referring to the updated tune/mapping. Many have said its "softer" and less aggressive than before, likely faster around a track, but less fun on the street. I would like to avoid this update if at all possible, do I need to specify this at the dealer, or will they only apply it if requested?

I'm not certain the update can even be applied to 1st gen V4's, I'm only going off of what multiple dealers have told me.

Yo Can avoid it

by not paying the 700 o 800 they charge for it

The 2020 V4 mapping is different than 2018 & 2019. The 2020's mapping is allegedly a little softer to make the motorcycle easier to ride. I do not believe that this mapping is compatible or available for the earlier V4 models.

Correct. It very well may not be compatible with the 18/19's, yet multiple dealers have said it's part of the software update, and all bikes get it when you take them in. Can @jarelj offer some insight? Not sure if dealers are claiming this to create value in older inventory, or if it's actually true.

Ashes said:

Correct. It very well may not be compatible with the 18/19's, yet multiple dealers have said it's part of the software update, and all bikes get it when you take them in. Can @jarelj offer some insight? Not sure if dealers are claiming this to create value in older inventory, or if it's actually true.

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It's not a question of compatibility with earlier models. The EVO2 software update is purely a development/tweaking of the algorithms used in earlier releases of the V4 for certain parameters within the overall software suite, nothing more nothing less, which in turn have made the bike easier to ride on track, though most of the enhancements will only be noticeable once you're on a circuit, such as slide control and DWC. It can be uploaded into the ECU by any Ducati dealer but it is not a free option, you have to pay for it. The mechanics and the architecture of the ECU itself found on the older bikes, are no different to those on later 2020 variants. Do not confuse the EVO2 "upgrade" with regular system software updates/bug fixes, as these are applied regardless, whenever the diagnostics software detects your bike is due for any. IF Ducati decide to include it at a later date for free, as part of a normal routine diagnostics driven call for an update, then you'll save yourself some money, but don't hold your breath!

I thought the EVO2 update was also labeled a “closed circuit only” update that was purchased for that purpose... not just a generic software improvement (that you’d expect to be done as part of a service). Correct me if I’m wrong??

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Nadsy said:

I thought the EVO2 update was also labeled a “closed circuit only” update that was purchased for that purpose... not just a generic software improvement (that you’d expect to be done as part of a service). Correct me if I’m wrong??

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You are correct. It appears that Ashes is concerned with the MY2020 V4's updated mapping being installed on MY2018-2019 V4s without prior owner consent when it goes in for service.

Maybe I didnt make myself clear enough, I am NOT referring to the Evo 2 software whatsoever. Yes, that update can be purchased separately. Now shelf that product completely as it is irrelevant to the discussion.

I am only referring to the stock mapping on 2020 V4's, it HAS been updated and as a result the bikes manner has changed. This has been addressed by every review I have watched, the bike is more docile, it has become easier to ride. Dealers are claiming that software update will be applied to all V4's during service. Is that factual?

Ashes said:

Maybe I didnt make myself clear enough, I am NOT referring to the Evo 2 software whatsoever. Yes, that update can be purchased separately. Now shelf that product completely as it is irrelevant to the discussion.

I am only referring to the stock mapping on 2020 V4's, it HAS been updated and as a result the bikes manner has changed. This has been addressed by every review I have watched, the bike is more docile, it has become easier to ride. Dealers are claiming that software update will be applied to all V4's during service. Is that factual?

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Apologies I misread you original post. I would have thought the definitive answer to your question would be whatever the Ducati Diagnostic dealer software determined was an appropriate (and therefore compatible) update for your bike. It may well be that the 2020 software update is (as its likely a simple re-coding of the algorithms your current software utilizes and may be unaffected by any differences in hardware/architecture of the mechanical platform between model year changes). As to whether you want to avoid it, that is a question only your dealer can answer, though if it is a valid update for your year of manufacture, it is going to throw up an error every time they hook it up to your bike at subsequent services, if you elect not to have it applied.

The Avidmoto said:

The 2020 V4 mapping is different than 2018 & 2019. The 2020's mapping is allegedly a little softer to make the motorcycle easier to ride. I do not believe that this mapping is compatible or available for the earlier V4 models.

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I can confirm on my 2021 streetfighter, it’s very soft even in the high mode down low and then wack it hits hard. They’ve definitely played out with the fueling down low

That's unfortunate to hear, especially considering the lower gearing the streetfighter has.

Gogoggansgo said:

I can confirm on my 2021 streetfighter, it’s very soft even in the high mode down low and then wack it hits hard. They’ve definitely played out with the fueling down low

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Yeah I’ve noticed this as well, I’ve raced a few 600s for the .... of it and with the wheelie control at level 4, the bike would literally hit soft and the second i hit 3rd past 10k rpm. I was gone, they definitely played around with the fueling i would love to see the afr compared 17-19 vs 20 because a lot of guys are saying the stock tune is doing a bit better when running a slip on aka lol arrow system compared to the 17-19s