Lamborghini Aventador VS Ducati Panigale
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lol Iron Chef.
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Hmmm...or is it a Pokemon battle?
I've always been fascinated by car vs. bike track comparisons. Back in the 90's, Sportrider's Kent Kunitsugu took on a Corvette ZR1 with a FZR-1000. Just recently, Fifth Gear's Tiff Needell drove a Ariel Atom 2 against Steve Rapp on the Attack Performance CRT MotoGP bike. Both results were pretty much the same as this comparison.
Boiled down, the bike has a tremendous power-to-weight ratio advantage, which easily overcomes the grip advantage a supercar has with massive contact patch. So in braking the absolute corner speed, the car has the advantage. When any application of throttle is required, it's no contest for the bike. So the fact that most of any lap is spent accelerating, as long as it is dry, the bike is just about always going to win.
Another factor is how much smaller and skinnier a motorcycle is compared to any supercar. Due to this fact, a bike can take tidier lines and ends up covering considerably less distance around the same track than a supercar.
The most impressive thing I've observed in these showdowns is how much advancement there has been in motorcycle tires. The compounds and profiles have developed so much more that I wager this accounts for the greatest amount of time gained over supercars. Cornering speeds in the 90's were something like 10% less than a supercar of the day, now the bikes are nearly matching the apex speeds of supercars while still maintaining their acceleration advantage.
Boiled down, the bike has a tremendous power-to-weight ratio advantage, which easily overcomes the grip advantage a supercar has with massive contact patch. So in braking the absolute corner speed, the car has the advantage. When any application of throttle is required, it's no contest for the bike. So the fact that most of any lap is spent accelerating, as long as it is dry, the bike is just about always going to win.
Another factor is how much smaller and skinnier a motorcycle is compared to any supercar. Due to this fact, a bike can take tidier lines and ends up covering considerably less distance around the same track than a supercar.
The most impressive thing I've observed in these showdowns is how much advancement there has been in motorcycle tires. The compounds and profiles have developed so much more that I wager this accounts for the greatest amount of time gained over supercars. Cornering speeds in the 90's were something like 10% less than a supercar of the day, now the bikes are nearly matching the apex speeds of supercars while still maintaining their acceleration advantage.
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The depth of their reviews and comparisons is something to behold. The guy on the bike didn't look like he was going all out. Not even a hint of wheel lift, hmm.
For the car fans out there check out the track races between the various stock and modified car makes and top tuners in Japan. Particularly the Touge stages where they race a mountain course head-to-head while trying to open a gap on each other. Takes a big pair and some serious skills!!
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For the car fans out there check out the track races between the various stock and modified car makes and top tuners in Japan. Particularly the Touge stages where they race a mountain course head-to-head while trying to open a gap on each other. Takes a big pair and some serious skills!!
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Has that guy every ridden on a track before?? He did NOT look into it at all....
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I'm not, cars (with a lot more money invested of course) are faster then bikes. 4 wheels with lots of grip vs 2 wheels makes up for a lot of time in braking zones and cornering, which you can see in the 2nd youtube video with the gps tracking
Faster than bikes? 4+ seconds a lap slower for the Aventador? Must be that fancy new math I've heard about...
Read post #8 for the truth of the matter. Proven every time with street car vs. bike. Add downforce-producing race cars, another story altogether.
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The real way to tell is with a Formula 1 car and a MotoGP bike on the same track.
An 1199 is much closer to race bike than an Aventador is to race car or pretty much any other car is for that matter. Especially at the level of racing in which the respective vehicles participate.
An 1199 is much closer to race bike than an Aventador is to race car or pretty much any other car is for that matter. Especially at the level of racing in which the respective vehicles participate.
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I think there is a video of Stoner against a Formula and another lesser race car in which the Formula smoked the bike.
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precisely. at the limit of each form, car wins.
What is faster, Formula1 or MotoGP? - Forum - F1technical.net
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...cINpoDdUgLyaPX5bm-hGHtQ&bvm=bv.55819444,d.aWc
Here it is. Stoner takes second.
Here it is. Stoner takes second.
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Also those F1 cars are like jets. The amount of downforce they create is astounding. Especially the red bulls.
I'm an F1 nut. I'll be in Austin soon
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That isn't a motogp bike though.
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