My input on a couple tuners I've used

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Have a 2015 1299 base. Installed Termi slip ons and filter.

Stock- simply is just bad. Weird starting, stalled 8-10 times in 300 miles, surging/bucking under 5000rpm ect.

Rapidbike- Ran it for a year. Much better than stock, still had a weird start and not smooth under 4000rpm but better than stock. Never stalled but took some rev to leave a light or it would choke. Definitely happy I had it.

Bren tuner- Being a car tuner myself I knew doing the pcm would be best. After taking off the rapidbike I got the Bren tuner setup. First start the bike sounded smoother and idled like it never has. Took it for a long ride and with the tuner in it I can cruise at 3000rpm like I never could before. Everything just feels tuned now, throttle response, transitions ect. The bike even runs roughly 10 degree's cooler everywhere. Definitely less heat on my thighs.

So, figured I'd throw this out there for people looking at tuning options.
 
Thanks for this. Ordering mines soon. Wish they still had the special forum price!
 
I can’t believe how smooth the RapidBike made mine run, no matter what cans. I mean rolling off idle in gear.

Almost unbelievable someone switched to something else after that.
 
Phl said:
I can't believe how smooth the RapidBike made mine run, no matter what cans. I mean rolling off idle in gear.

Almost unbelievable someone switched to something else after that.
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It was good. Reason I had it for a year plus. Figured I'd try a flashed computer instead. Now it's even better.
 
been debating on the Bren flash but would prefer to see some dyno graphs (before/after) to see what kinda of gains throughout the rpms you get and how well it smooth's it out.
 
Custom tuning is 95% drivability, 5% dyno. Since I'm street riding low throttle input is much more important to me than a dyno graph. I'm sure this is good but for all out/wot any bike should be tuned on a dyno for wot fueling and timing..

I tune build/cars for a living so I know the importance of tuning the driving conditions. Right now finishing a 1000rwhp street car.
 
Lots of the bmw guys use brentuning and love it! I was a little concerned about going to alpha-n tuning as it only uses tps and rpm. Was wondering how it would determine load or the ram air effect at triple digit speeds (ducati uses mph)but I guess they have it figured out.

I prefer stand-alone vs piggyback. Wish end user could adjust fuel mapping. It does have ability to read & clear codes, reset maintenance lights & maybe even the desmo Service light.
 
Rayzor said:
Lots of the bmw guys use brentuning and love it! I was a little concerned about going to alpha-n tuning as it only uses tps and rpm. Was wondering how it would determine load or the ram air effect at triple digit speeds (ducati uses mph)but I guess they have it figured out.

I prefer stand-alone vs piggyback. Wish end user could adjust fuel mapping. It does have ability to read & clear codes, reset maintenance lights & maybe even the desmo Service light.
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I do not know the setup but I would guess this also is tuned off a map sensor too. That would give ya full access of all load table's.
 
No, alpha n is strictly tps & rpm. No map or maf or airflow meter. It’s used in cars with multiple individual throttle bodies (butterfly per cylinder where vacuum goes very low on just slight opening. Not enough resolution to use map signal)

Speed density uses map values. Mass airflow systems measures total air mass. Airflow meter is another type that measures air but only measures volume (barn door that swings open in proportion to air and sweeps across sensor for position) it doesn’t measure density (cold air more dense so more air molecules then hot air of same volume )

Theory: Alpha-N « Moates Support
 
I’m glad to see others getting good results with brentunings alpha n. Hope to try it soon
 
tifosi1299 said:
having a racing evo map from ducati will that effect anything with my 1299?
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I contacted brentuning and each map they write is specific to your ecu. You will have to extract your ecu info, send it to them and they will write map to be installed based on your mods.
 
I can cosign the Brentune flash is good. I also have a rapidbike EVO, but i plan on removing it because its really not necessary to have both. It's also less headache if you ever need to diagnose a problem to not have another layer to deal with.
 
I have also had bren tuning files on my 1199S for over a year now. It transformed the bike totally in the bottom rpm and it is now possible to ride it from ~3000 rpm and up. With the first tune I Got Bike still felt a bit jerky in the midrange (4500-5500 rpm) under certain circumstances. I got an updated file this spring and those are also gone now! I am really happy I decided to go with BT instead of other options I considered.
 
Put the Brentune in last week on my 1199 base. Need more ... time but so far does seem to have better torque in the 3k range than stock. Plus they were super easy to deal with and ultra responsive customer service
 
I rode the bike for 2-300 miles. It is much different. Confidence leaving stop lights, does not chug or give a hint of leaning/stalling, much smoother in low rpms that I found myself cruising at 3k rpm. Throttle is linier now, has more of a cable response feel.
I rode it mostly in race mod with everything shut off. Felt good unlike before it was twitchy on throttle response.
 
Rayzor said:
No, alpha n is strictly tps & rpm. No map or maf or airflow meter. It's used in cars with multiple individual throttle bodies (butterfly per cylinder where vacuum goes very low on just slight opening. Not enough resolution to use map signal)

Speed density uses map values. Mass airflow systems measures total air mass. Airflow meter is another type that measures air but only measures volume (barn door that swings open in proportion to air and sweeps across sensor for position) it doesn't measure density (cold air more dense so more air molecules then hot air of same volume )

Theory: Alpha-N « Moates Support
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Good yo know. Never looked into that tuning setup. My line of work tunes in off a map since we do a lot of boosted app's.
 
Mine still chugs at take off, guess its inevitable. I'm used to being able to stay in 2nd if rolling, but not with the 1199. Its an absolute animal at the top end tho
 
Ducati's are notoriously geared tall in first, so I dropped from the stock 15 tooth to a 14 tooth front sprocket on my 1199, made a huge difference on leaving from a stop and riding around town (cheap upgrade too!). This gives about a 7% increase in torque multiplication in the final drive ratio, 14t/39t versus stock 15t/39t but may reduce top speed (as if I care). However, it did not fix the low engine speed surging bucking that is common from 3-5k rpm, even with my full Termignoni system and Race EVO Up-Map. The race ECU and Termignonis fixed my 1098 lean stumbles/stalls on that bike, but apparently the Ducati tuners did not eliminate the low speed stumbles on the Panigale platform with the ECU flash and exhaust. I have talked with Bren Tuning and have ordered their handheld/map based on the positive feedback regarding their tunes on this forum. I am hoping for improved smoothness from 3000 rpm up, will keep everyone posted on the changes. I am hoping for the best because I love this bike except for the low end surging/bucking.
 
It will transform the bike totally in that area and make it easy to ride from 3000 rpm and up. Would be interesting to read your feedback after map change.
 

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