New guy again

Morning all,well its morning here in the uk..
Current gsxr rider of only a few years but Ive already got the bug as I'd imagine everyone here has for bikes in general.
I'm about ready to upgrade and have a shortlist,a very short list in fairness.
1.the base ducati v4 model
2.the BMW s1000rr
I intend to try both after Christmas and make a final decision then.wish me luck
Heart says v4 but head says BMW...anyone have both or ridden both ??

You have seen this one?

I’m in the UK also and did similar to you. I ended up going with the V2 for the following reason. It’s stunning and has more than enough power for UK roads. I had a 1299s before and that was a pain for London.

In terms of the s1000rr, great bike BUT it’s missing a belly pan and exhaust options to make it look decent. I checked with a few BMW dealers and they all said if you change the exhaust. (Even slip on) the warranty is null and void. Plus... s1000rr is too good... with all the mod cons... whereas Ducati is Italian... it will always be a pain but when u look at it you forgive it all. Last point... Ducati put together better as S1000rr was a rush job for bmw due to supply chain issues. Watch some MCN vids on YouTube.

good luck

I'll have a watch thanks
I will try both before I'm 100% and yes,the v2 looks and sounds very very good

Two good dealerships in terms of pro activity were North Oxford (Rian) and Park Lane (Philippe) for BMW and Nottingham (Mark) or Alton (Bryan) for Ducati.

We've got one or two dealers up here in the North East for both...when I go and ask for test rides ill see what they are all about..there's no way I'd buy without a try..hopefully this cover fiasco we can all put behind us early next year and get out about more

Any UK members on here from Northampton area ??

London...

This was the choice I faced as well.

BMW S1000RR "M"
I have a BMW R1200S and have been a fan of the marque for both cars and bikes for come years now. At first, for me, the 2020 S1000RR M edition was a simple choice. I test rode a 2015, 2017, and 2018 S1000RR. The 2017 was near perfect but felt a bit small. Later research has suggested that this is the pinnacle version of the bike. Abruptly, the 2020 S1000RR M I was ready to buy received a "no-sell" advisory as soon as it arrived in the shop. The answers to "why" were a bit cryptic but I was pointed in the direction of the link below for clues.
Draw your own conclusions from the 740-odd posts.

For me... the significant flat spot in the ECU (fixable for CDN$1000 on top of the price of a new bike, possibly/probably voiding the warranty... although there are work-arounds for that blah blah blah) was a bitter pill for a new bike. Then, add cracked carbon fiber wheels and a long list of leaking bits and substandard parts ... pretty much closed the book on that bike for me. Perhaps the 2021 is an improvement, albeit even more costly.

Ducati V4
Test rode a 2018 and 2019 V4 and V4S. Sat on the 2020 V4. Bought it. Happy.

If I had been more confident of the long-term health of the S1000RR I would have bought it, despite the need to address the ECU mapping. The dealership even offered to switch out the carbon wheels for forged wheels... and then retracted the offer because BMW said it would void the warranty because the "as sold" registry of parts and equipment would have been altered. Again, my alternative was to buy a second set of wheels as an aftermarket purchase. Absurd requirement to address a known problem for a new bike. "Don't worry, the carbon wheels are covered by warranty" is not sufficiently confidence inspiring. Especially when some warranty claims have been rejected. A wheel failure at speed would inconvenience my family, to say the least.

One man's experience and opinion. Best of luck.

Eenybear said:

This was the choice I faced as well.

BMW S1000RR "M"
I have a BMW R1200S and have been a fan of the marque for both cars and bikes for come years now. At first, for me, the 2020 S1000RR M edition was a simple choice. I test rode a 2015, 2017, and 2018 S1000RR. The 2017 was near perfect but felt a bit small. Later research has suggested that this is the pinnacle version of the bike. Abruptly, the 2020 S1000RR M I was ready to buy received a "no-sell" advisory as soon as it arrived in the shop. The answers to "why" were a bit cryptic but I was pointed in the direction of the link below for clues.

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/threads/2020-rr-post-your-mechanical-issues.239614/

Draw your own conclusions from the 740-odd posts.

For me... the significant flat spot in the ECU (fixable for CDN$1000 on top of the price of a new bike, possibly/probably voiding the warranty... although there are work-arounds for that blah blah blah) was a bitter pill for a new bike. Then, add cracked carbon fiber wheels and a long list of leaking bits and substandard parts ... pretty much closed the book on that bike for me. Perhaps the 2021 is an improvement, albeit even more costly.

Ducati V4
Test rode a 2018 and 2019 V4 and V4S. Sat on the 2020 V4. Bought it. Happy.

If I had been more confident of the long-term health of the S1000RR I would have bought it, despite the need to address the ECU mapping. The dealership even offered to switch out the carbon wheels for forged wheels... and then retracted the offer because BMW said it would void the warranty because the "as sold" registry of parts and equipment would have been altered. Again, my alternative was to buy a second set of wheels as an aftermarket purchase. Absurd requirement for a new bike.

One man's experience and opinion. Best of luck.

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MCN on you tube also mentioned below standard build and the rush job to meet orders that were already 6 months late...great review though by u

Spotted a nice v4 used with 1200 miles and £5000 cheaper then new.now it is a 2019 admittedly,so not the 2020,is that worth the extra ?? So 15k for a 2019,pretty much standard with 1200 miles from new..

This is a really common discussion "should I get a Ducati or brand x?" then the pros and cons list.

The fact is that all modern sports bikes are excellent, there is no bike thats significantly worse than any other. You are essentially standing at the ice cream shop asking the guy next to you if chocolate is better than vanilla. Ive seen the bean counter threads about which bike has the most features etc-.

Get the bike that fires you up, btw youre on the Duke site. Youre not getting a BMW recommendation from me!

Never asked which to buy,I joined here to find out about ducati in general,because its on my shortlist.any info on either of those is more than welcome regardless..I do expect a more favourable view of duc here..not sure on the ice cream analogy...but thanks anyway

If there are ice creams going... 99 Flake for me

Well,that v4 was sold today I think..anyone here ??

I rode both 2021 S1000rr and a 2020 V4 back to back, different bikes for sure and I loved both.

1. BMW is way more comfortable from a geometry perspective and for me (5ft 8in, 180 Lbs) the BMW would clearly make for a better commuting bike. I don't commute on my bikes so this wasn't taken into account for my decision making.
2. BMW has nav, cruise, and heated grips. Big plus in my book
3. Ducati sounds so much better than the inline 4 on the BMW
4. Ducati felt more powerful, but unfair comparison since BMW has a 8K rev limiter on them until first service
5. Both seats stock suck
6. Ducati seems to handle better
7. Lots of heat come off the ducati, not so much on the BMW
8. BMW cant even sell right now due to open recalls on the brakes. These bikes seem to be plagued with recalls.
9. Ducati has Akra fitted and bike still under warranty
10. Price: BMW with race, select, and carbon was 24K, I got the V4s down to 24K so even on price.

At first I went with BMW (still have a small deposit on one) but a week later I picked up my V4S. Would like to own both though if BMW can ever sell them again....

brad8266 said:

I rode both 2021 S1000rr and a 2020 V4 back to back, different bikes for sure and I loved both.

1. BMW is way more comfortable from a geometry perspective and for me (5ft 8in, 180 Lbs) the BMW would clearly make for a better commuting bike. I don't commute on my bikes so this wasn't taken into account for my decision making.
2. BMW has nav, cruise, and heated grips. Big plus in my book
3. Ducati sounds so much better than the inline 4 on the BMW
4. Ducati felt more powerful, but unfair comparison since BMW has a 8K rev limiter on them until first service
5. Both seats stock suck
6. Ducati seems to handle better
7. Lots of heat come off the ducati, not so much on the BMW
8. BMW cant even sell right now due to open recalls on the brakes. These bikes seem to be plagued with recalls.
9. Ducati has Akra fitted and bike still under warranty
10. Price: BMW with race, select, and carbon was 24K, I got the V4s down to 24K so even on price.

At first I went with BMW (still have a small deposit on one) but a week later I picked up my V4S. Would like to own both though if BMW can ever sell them again....

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Thanks,this is the type of info I was hoping for...I'm still strongly swayed with the v4..heart always overules my head..

Goodluck mate, we look forward to see your Ducati soon


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Steve940 said:

Morning all,well its morning here in the uk..
Current gsxr rider of only a few years but Ive already got the bug as I'd imagine everyone here has for bikes in general.
I'm about ready to upgrade and have a shortlist,a very short list in fairness.
1.the base ducati v4 model
2.the BMW s1000rr
I intend to try both after Christmas and make a final decision then.wish me luck
Heart says v4 but head says BMW...anyone have both or ridden both ??

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Good morning
Hi, I have the S1000RR is a good bike but I will change to the V4 more racing. How is the Gsxr? i heard good and bad things? why you want to change to V4?