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Sounds like you two are describing a similar bike to me.
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I have no idea what it is, I just know a few details.
It's still a parts bin special, but I want one
a bike between a R and SL sounds like a perfect bike for me but in track trim.
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I'm sure I will like the V4 Ducati but I wont buy it first year...maybe 4th or 5th year? maybe wait for something special like SL or Desmo RR?
Having said that, I am FINE with current R engine. So it will not be a bad idea for me to get this one and THEN wait 5 years or so to buy new version of V4. lol .
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Wonder if it will be anything like the 998FE. Paintjob and a few extras thrown on it but ostensibly a tarted up bog-standard bike.
Whilst they are throwing on the twin akra underseat pipes (a la 1299SL), I doubt this is the full system, most likely linked up with that god awful monstrosity of an underbelly/collector/cat. Ultimately, the price point will dictate if it's simply an R with bolt-ons or something a bit more special
Whilst they are throwing on the twin akra underseat pipes (a la 1299SL), I doubt this is the full system, most likely linked up with that god awful monstrosity of an underbelly/collector/cat. Ultimately, the price point will dictate if it's simply an R with bolt-ons or something a bit more special
Well as the bike in video has lights and will probably be sold for registration in Europe as well, I am guessing it will have the EURO4 system from the 1299SL with the big underbelly cats , and the full race version from 1299SL will be an expensive accessory
I am hoping that the engine internals will be a little like the engine parts transfer from the 1199SL to the Pani R. If the 1299FE only has a standard 1299engine, it will be a disappointment.
I am hoping that the engine internals will be a little like the engine parts transfer from the 1199SL to the Pani R. If the 1299FE only has a standard 1299engine, it will be a disappointment.
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Well as the bike in video has lights and will probably be sold for registration in Europe as well, I am guessing it will have the EURO4 system from the 1299SL with the big underbelly cats , and the full race version from 1299SL will be an expensive accessory
I am hoping that the engine internals will be a little like the engine parts transfer from the 1199SL to the Pani R. If the 1299FE only has a standard 1299engine, it will be a disappointment.
It's a watered down 1299 SL motor. Same light weight internals but with a few changes to put reliability up and cost down e.g. steel piston liners instead of aluminum.
So it will be a translation of the 1299 SL as the R (2015>) was to the 1199 SL.
I did put this earlier in the post
210 bhp, 105 lb-ft torque, 165 kg, WSBK exhaust - with Euro4 cats and £32,000
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It's a watered down 1299 SL motor. Same light weight internals but with a few changes to put reliability up and cost down e.g. steel piston liners instead of aluminum.
So it will be a translation of the 1299 SL as the R (2015>) was to the 1199 SL.
I did put this earlier in the post
I can't see Ducati putting on the carbon wheels and trick exhaust as standard equipment and then keeping the cost at £32,000. We know for sure that some form of the SL exhaust will be included. Maybe the cats will be hidden under a redesigned belly pan.
. That would make sense and very cool as a performance Ti race header option would make it the real deal....As for the wheels....? $$$$$
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As much as I don't want to buy into the hype....... if this bike has the 1299 SL engine I'm in. God knows I must for the 1299SL but I ride my bikes a lot, i ditched my 1299 S for the R and didn't regret it one bit. If this bike is the similar treatment I'll get it and be happy with it. 210hp???? Hell yes
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Lol no more V4 Kevin?
Quite amusing that Ducati has already started dumbing down their website, with the
existing Pani S and R now only making 197HP instead of the 205 they were both sold at
originally. Oh look, a sudden massive improvement - yours for x thousand pounds/dollars.
Also looks like the new one is a bit of a fat ....... too, carrying 1.5kg more than the
existing S and 6kg more than the R.
I'm sure this will all be corrected with new marketing though ;-)
existing Pani S and R now only making 197HP instead of the 205 they were both sold at
originally. Oh look, a sudden massive improvement - yours for x thousand pounds/dollars.
Also looks like the new one is a bit of a fat ....... too, carrying 1.5kg more than the
existing S and 6kg more than the R.
I'm sure this will all be corrected with new marketing though ;-)
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Possibly, it all depends.
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I'm guessing the weight increase is due to the euro 4 exhaust. I'm very interested in the bike as it should be the ultimate Panigale and incredible having a lightweight fast spinning R 1299 engine but it looks like its going to need thousands spent on a damn exhaust to make it comparable to the existing R. Two steps forward, one backwards
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I'm guessing the weight increase is due to the euro 4 exhaust. I'm very interested in the bike as it should be the ultimate Panigale and incredible having a lightweight fast spinning R 1299 engine but it looks like its going to need thousands spent on a damn exhaust to make it comparable to the existing R. Two steps forward, one backwards
From what I understand it will come with the exhaust and I believe this doesn't have to play by the euro 4 rules yet.
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Europeans and their stupid laws.
Worst kind of people lol
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