Panigale Brake Upgrades - BEWARE!

timwu12 said:

you're talking $300 for the master and $250 for the on/off switch, so is the RCS17 really that much better than the stock mc?

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timwu12 said:

you're talking $300 for the master and $250 for the on/off switch, so is the RCS17 really that much better than the stock mc?

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jdgun said:

$450 better, I would say no... Ducabike on/off starter, brembo RCS 17 but it is sexy!

This is coming from a upper tier Intermediate/slow advanced guy on track..
I personally would invest the money elsewhere, unless you just want to mod the stock stuff. especially if this for a street bike.

I come in at 300lbs in full riding gear and I typically ride the ridge where your brakes will get a workout. I never had an issue with the stock set-up and I typically am very late on the brakes, to try and stay with my lightweight riding pals. The stock combination with different pads worked great.

The RCS 17, I did feel gave better feedback from the lever, not to mention it matches my RCS clutch, which is why I bought the brake side.. I like matching.

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esmirna8261980 said:

there is nothing wrong with the stock set up any way, this is only blind blind mod if you think that it too hard to bleed your brake get your self a ....... vespa

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jarelj said:

The Panigale has DIFFERENT brakes than prior Ducati Superbikes, and the master cylinder has a smaller piston in it to accomodate the smaller 30mm pistons in the new M50 calipers. So this means that the calipers and master cylinder are NOT interchangeable between the Panigale and the 848/1098/1198 models (or prior 749/999). Brembo does NOT currently have a racing master cylinder available that is compatible with the M50 calipers, they said they'll have one in the future. If you use a traditional 19mm Brembo racing master cylinder with the Panigale M50 calipers, it could potentially blow out the piston seals in the calipers, which would obviously be very bad. So for now, if you want to upgrade the brakes on your Panigale for the track, you'll need different calipers (either a set of OEM monoblocs from a prior model - or a set of Brembo racing calipers), and a traditional Brembo 19mm racing master cylinder in your choice of lever ratio (or the RCS adjustable-ratio one).

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Bengarzy said:

Nope, if the master cylinder is to big for the caliper all you get is a very firm lever and less brake than you want for the effort,

nothing will blow out the seals in the calipers, they can take massive test pressures.

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tadashi said:

Nope. I've definitely seen a m50 blow up.

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Bengarzy said:

Nope, you haven't, unless there was another fault in the calliper already, i.e. Wrong piston to bore clearance (non standard).
All hydraulic brake calipers ( Brembo are the finest) will take many times the pressure the human hand can exert without any problem.
Also as the larger diameter master cylinder actually reduces the hydraulic pressure from a given lever pressure it's even safer from any problems.
I think your dreaming about having seen any Brembo calipers failing unless they had been mechanically damaged (cracked) from an impact of some kind.
Check out the manufacturers test program and see the vast difference and safety margin that is built into braking systems, the mechanical side of the master cylinder operation will fail before the calipers will.

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