Progressive and Flat setting
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I am pretty sure it was on this forum, or perhaps Ducati.Org, but there are numerous threads on this topic and some even have step by step change process (even with photos) So try doing a search and see what ya find man.
The progressive mode is pretty much for everything but SERIOUS track use, and even then you will still need to dial in some different numbers to tweak it right. If its street riding you want, put it on P and leave it there bro!
I am pretty sure it was on this forum, or perhaps Ducati.Org, but there are numerous threads on this topic and some even have step by step change process (even with photos) So try doing a search and see what ya find man.
The progressive mode is pretty much for everything but SERIOUS track use, and even then you will still need to dial in some different numbers to tweak it right. If its street riding you want, put it on P and leave it there bro!
Joined May 2012
654 Posts | 127+
Julington Creek, FL
I think you missed my point Gunny, lol.
Anyway here is a link to the instructional experience for the newbies...
http://ducati1199.com/mechanical-technical/1230-how-change-f-p-rear-shock.html
Anyway here is a link to the instructional experience for the newbies...
http://ducati1199.com/mechanical-technical/1230-how-change-f-p-rear-shock.html
Joined Mar 2012
3K Posts | 2K+
NOVA
My bike was delivered in F position and after reading a number of reviews on here and agreeing that the stock set up was stiff I arranged with my dealer to have it changed to P.
Here in the UK we have some very bumpy roads and initially in F I found myself bouncing into the tank which was very painful
My UK dealer (JHP) is very well known for racing and has massive experience when it comes to bike set up. They actually told me not to change to the P setting but I insisted so they did it. It instantly felt better as the rear felt more planted but it created another problem as I started to notice that the front end was now too stiff and lacked feel.
Anyway, after another month or so I popped back to the dealer explaining my feedback and got the famous 'I Told You So' conversation. They then set about doing a full suspension setup to my requirements. Things that were changed:
P back to F setting
New Front fork springs and set preload
New Rear spring and set preload
Adjust DES settings
Lower rear ride height
The bike is now transformed. The rear feels planted and the front end offers masses of feedback.
I'm mainly a fast road rider so the bike would need to be stiffened up for track work but most of that could be done via the DES and buy adding a few turns of preload.
Overall, I'd say changing to P is thew wrong way to go unless your genuinely going to have a pillion. Pay as little extra and get the bike set up to your requirements, it makes the bike come alive.
Here in the UK we have some very bumpy roads and initially in F I found myself bouncing into the tank which was very painful
My UK dealer (JHP) is very well known for racing and has massive experience when it comes to bike set up. They actually told me not to change to the P setting but I insisted so they did it. It instantly felt better as the rear felt more planted but it created another problem as I started to notice that the front end was now too stiff and lacked feel.
Anyway, after another month or so I popped back to the dealer explaining my feedback and got the famous 'I Told You So' conversation. They then set about doing a full suspension setup to my requirements. Things that were changed:
P back to F setting
New Front fork springs and set preload
New Rear spring and set preload
Adjust DES settings
Lower rear ride height
The bike is now transformed. The rear feels planted and the front end offers masses of feedback.
I'm mainly a fast road rider so the bike would need to be stiffened up for track work but most of that could be done via the DES and buy adding a few turns of preload.
Overall, I'd say changing to P is thew wrong way to go unless your genuinely going to have a pillion. Pay as little extra and get the bike set up to your requirements, it makes the bike come alive.
Joined Dec 2011
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France
My bike was delivered in F position and after reading a number of reviews on here and agreeing that the stock set up was stiff I arranged with my dealer to have it changed to P.
Here in the UK we have some very bumpy roads and initially in F I found myself bouncing into the tank which was very painful
My UK dealer (JHP) is very well known for racing and has massive experience when it comes to bike set up. They actually told me not to change to the P setting but I insisted so they did it. It instantly felt better as the rear felt more planted but it created another problem as I started to notice that the front end was now too stiff and lacked feel.
Anyway, after another month or so I popped back to the dealer explaining my feedback and got the famous 'I Told You So' conversation. They then set about doing a full suspension setup to my requirements. Things that were changed:
P back to F setting
New Front fork springs and set preload
New Rear spring and set preload
Adjust DES settings
Lower rear ride height
The bike is now transformed. The rear feels planted and the front end offers masses of feedback.
I'm mainly a fast road rider so the bike would need to be stiffened up for track work but most of that could be done via the DES and buy adding a few turns of preload.
Overall, I'd say changing to P is thew wrong way to go unless your genuinely going to have a pillion. Pay as little extra and get the bike set up to your requirements, it makes the bike come alive.
any informations about yours springs, preload and DES setting please? and your weight ?
thank you
Still need to respring my base but I also went back to F after trying P for a couple thousand miles, since I didn't like what it did to the handling in the corners. I found that it tended to wallow and then pack down in the rear, which I kind of expected given the overall motion ratio is the same on P or F. P starts out softer, but then gets stiffer than F in the middle of the stroke, which is what it's intended to do (for supporting a passenger.) It does offer a bandaid for general riding on bumpy roads with the stock springs, but IMHO the better LT solution for speedy solo riding is correct spring rates at both ends and the link in F.
Joined Dec 2012
146 Posts | 8+
Woodbridge, VA
I went to my dealer about setting up the bike suspension for my weight, riding style, etc. He put a zip tie on the front shock and told me to ride it for a couple of months to see how far down the zip tie is pushed. He said if I wasn't pushing it all the way to the bottom then it wasn't worth adjusting the suspension. That was a couple of weeks ago and so far I haven't hit bottom, lol.
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