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Is anyone in the know? Is there any chance of rapidbike releasing their tuning solution for the V4 in the next 4-5 months?

I just bought an exhaust, but don't want to buy an upmap or brentuning if a rapid bike is going to be released. I'd rather have a self learning solution.
 
I guess I will wait until spring. If nothing is released, I will get the cheapest option out there (upmap) and then upgrade when rapidbike is finally released.

Should be a little more pressure to release something now that the V4 streetfighter is released. Absolutely can't believe we are going into the 3rd year of V4 engine platform and rapidbike hasn't released their full tuning solution. They have had excellent success with the previous Ducati models.
 
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They're still working on it, hopefully be available early next year.
 
I'm buying the tuneboy kit as it is out already and I like the idea that I may be able to get electronic cruise control later as well. The UpMap tune is too far off for me to feel comfortable riding it right now. I do a lot of highway commute and the engine is not happy at small throttle cruise on the highway. It drives me nuts not being able to hold a relatively constant speed. If you never did any highway riding, the UpMap would likely be fine. Also, the UpMap made the quick shifter noticeably worse at lower throttle openings. I had my bike flashed with EVO2 which drastically improved the quick shifter. It does have marvelous sound, though. But in the end, rideability and power are more important to me than sound. So I either fix this or return to stock.
 
ArcticWhite said:
I'm buying the tuneboy kit as it is out already and I like the idea that I may be able to get electronic cruise control later as well. The UpMap tune is too far off for me to feel comfortable riding it right now. I do a lot of highway commute and the engine is not happy at small throttle cruise on the highway. It drives me nuts not being able to hold a relatively constant speed. If you never did any highway riding, the UpMap would likely be fine. Also, the UpMap made the quick shifter noticeably worse at lower throttle openings. I had my bike flashed with EVO2 which drastically improved the quick shifter. It does have marvelous sound, though. But in the end, rideability and power are more important to me than sound. So I either fix this or return to stock.
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Hi ArcticWhite,
Is the Tuneboy kit able to reset service reminder light or other error code?
Thanks
 
ArcticWhite said:
I'm buying the tuneboy kit as it is out already and I like the idea that I may be able to get electronic cruise control later as well. The UpMap tune is too far off for me to feel comfortable riding it right now. I do a lot of highway commute and the engine is not happy at small throttle cruise on the highway. It drives me nuts not being able to hold a relatively constant speed. If you never did any highway riding, the UpMap would likely be fine. Also, the UpMap made the quick shifter noticeably worse at lower throttle openings. I had my bike flashed with EVO2 which drastically improved the quick shifter. It does have marvelous sound, though. But in the end, rideability and power are more important to me than sound. So I either fix this or return to stock.
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Please keep us advised of the progress. I knew TB was out, but haven't done research to see anyone's initial thoughts
 
I didn't try the aftermarket exhaust with the factory tune, but I think it is not going to be great. I would not run an aftermarket exhaust without any tuning. Removing the cats and the exhaust valve is a large change in exhaust flow which means a change in fuelling requirements. Likely 10hp more. This may be driveability problems down low, but you do not want to be too far off on AFR under WOT. This is not a lawnmower engine that will run without damage no matter what AFR. To get 226hp out of 1100cc's and 14,500rpm, you would be crazy to think this is not an engine that is highly stressed and highly dependent on tuning for longevity. There are not the wide margins you may think. I would NOT run that slip on with at least logging the WOT AFR to know you are OK. If you are not prepared to put the T800 on as a temporary measure, I would not install the exhaust until you get a dyno tune. With the high compression ratio, cylinder pressures that come from this high of HP, and considering how hot these bikes run, when running pump gas the bike must be a lot closer to detonation than many other engines out there. That's just what I am deducing, hopefully soon I have some actual experience in logging AFR and tuning this bike.

My direct experience with the Jester exhaust and T800 is that at 70mph, I can add 10% more throttle at cruise and still continue to not hold speed. For that to happen, the AFR has to be off a significant amount.
 
ArcticWhite said:
I didn't try the aftermarket exhaust with the factory tune, but I think it is not going to be great.
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I’m going to, and I’m going to let it idle and heat cycle to hopefully let the bike calibrate itself. I have a sprint filter and zard exhaust incoming.
I’ll get Dyno comparisons stock vs slipon and report back. if it’s all good, you should be good to go but you will want a servobuddy for the time being.

I’m hoping tuneboy is here with a win. We will find out
 
ArcticWhite,


You should reach out to Shiv, and has tuned many motorcycles to include RSV4 (Which I have his tune on my APE, and it's outstanding.) He built a tune for the V4.


Check out this video;









ArcticWhite said:
I didn't try the aftermarket exhaust with the factory tune, but I think it is not going to be great. I would not run an aftermarket exhaust without any tuning. Removing the cats and the exhaust valve is a large change in exhaust flow which means a change in fuelling requirements. Likely 10hp more. This may be driveability problems down low, but you do not want to be too far off on AFR under WOT. This is not a lawnmower engine that will run without damage no matter what AFR. To get 226hp out of 1100cc's and 14,500rpm, you would be crazy to think this is not an engine that is highly stressed and highly dependent on tuning for longevity. There are not the wide margins you may think. I would NOT run that slip on with at least logging the WOT AFR to know you are OK. If you are not prepared to put the T800 on as a temporary measure, I would not install the exhaust until you get a dyno tune. With the high compression ratio, cylinder pressures that come from this high of HP, and considering how hot these bikes run, when running pump gas the bike must be a lot closer to detonation than many other engines out there. That's just what I am deducing, hopefully soon I have some actual experience in logging AFR and tuning this bike.

My direct experience with the Jester exhaust and T800 is that at 70mph, I can add 10% more throttle at cruise and still continue to not hold speed. For that to happen, the AFR has to be off a significant amount.
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@stan1 Thanks for the link. I went and took a look at openflash performance. It is really interesting. They are using TunerPro software. The funny thing is I used TunerPro software when it came out in the 90's to tune GM's with the LT1 engine. So what openflash performance has done is create ECU definition files for different vehicles/bikes (basically discovered the table maping in the ECU and created the definition file for the ECU) as well as provide some basic tune files. This allows you to go in and tune the ECU. This is very powerful and gives you access to most of the ECU tables to modify. However, this is just a way to tune. You still need a way to log your engine parameters when you are driving or on the dyno, in order to really analyze what is going on in order to determine what you need to change. I don't see openflash providing a solution for logging.

One nice thing that makes tuneboy more user friendly for the amateur tuner, is that not only does it log, it overlays that log on your tune file, showing you the specific fuel table cells the engine management utilized when you were logging, shows where the fuelling was off the prescribed AFR settings, and calculates the fuelling changes required to get that fuel cell to the correct AFR. You would have to do all of this manually with openflash. TB does this work for you. I really think this a great feature for a home user, but I have yet to see if it works as advertised.
 
stan1 said:
ArcticWhite,


You should reach out to Shiv, and has tuned many motorcycles to include RSV4 (Which I have his tune on my APE, and it's outstanding.) He built a tune for the V4.


Check out this video;


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thank you, I like that he trashed on PowerCommander but then actually explained it

This video really helped me understand the idea
 

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