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I've got some of each. My racer is GP shift....on the right side of the bike. It's shifting with the right foot that takes a couple of laps to get used to. ;)

I don't believe there's any real advantage in either arrangement, it's simply a matter of your personal comfort. I'm comfortable either way as long as I know how the bike shifts when I climb aboard.

I'll never forget a story from VIR. A friend of mine is walking about with Kevin Schwantz at VIR (my friend Chuck is also Kevin's friend Chuck) and they happen upon a guy who is loudly proclaiming the virtues of GP shift. "You gotta have GP shift. You can't race without GP shift. You blah blah blah and ditty o doh. Look...there's Kevin Schwantz. Kevin, tell 'em." Kevin answered "I dunno. I've never raced a bike that shifts like that."

If Kevin's answer won't convince you that it just isn't important, I have nothing to add that will.
 
im under the impression of to each their own.. I see the merits and the downfalls of both.. and in both areas of implementation the track and the street.. personally I use GP shift for both my R6 track bike and the 1199 street bike. I do this so I don't forget/get mentally confused during a race or the street what way to shift.
my wife she used standard on both her CBR and 848 and she's no slouch rider either.. soo to each.. its whatever you are more comfy with or willing to learn/forget
the switch wasn't hard for me.. a few extra street rides banging through the gears more than I would on the track.. did it perfect
 
TricoloreSF said:
the ones that work without having to get a different shift rod, from my recollection:
- Rizoma

I'm sure there are others.
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I'm planning to buy Rizoma GP shift rear sets. My Ducati dealer tells me I need the Ducati Performance Reverse QS shift rod in order for the QS to work at all. The dealer claims this is due to the fact that the "normal" shift needs a pull signal and the reverse needs a push signal and for the push you need a sensor (the DP Reverse QS rod).

Could anyone please confirm whether I need the DP Reverse QS rod or not for the Rizoma rear sets to work with the quickshifter?

Thanx!
 
GP shift is better because it's different ;)

Normal can't possibly be the best :0

I personally like GP shift and have my 1199 setup this way. One of my street bikes is also GP.

I race a CRF250R Super Moto and no easy way to set to GP, so as always, I have some of each and just have to get over it. Try not to downshift at redline under full throttle.
 
Thamer said:
GP shift is great. I moto crossed for years and thought I'd hate GP shift. Made the switch and spent a day riding around all day and then when to the track. The switch was natural.

The woodcraft rear sets work with the stock QS for GP shift and are less that half the price of the DP ones.
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Same here. If you live in the northern part of the country, start out with GP shift in the spring, the hibernation will have partly reset you brain.

Also, the Pani is a good bike to learn on, by using the QS, and accidental downshift is very unlikely to happen since it just won't go in.

Start practising on the street, an accidental upshift will not get you in as much trouble as in a Banzai corner approach on the track.
 
Superlight1199 said:
I'm planning to buy Rizoma GP shift rear sets. My Ducati dealer tells me I need the Ducati Performance Reverse QS shift rod in order for the QS to work at all. The dealer claims this is due to the fact that the "normal" shift needs a pull signal and the reverse needs a push signal and for the push you need a sensor (the DP Reverse QS rod).

Could anyone please confirm whether I need the DP Reverse QS rod or not for the Rizoma rear sets to work with the quickshifter?

Thanx!
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Someone with Rizoma help the man out. The Gilles definitely do not require the DP shift rod. Gilles has 2 diff sets available for the Pani now. Ask Guido at shift tech carbon
 
I've always been used to GP shift, it drove me nuts the few months I had my 1199 on standard shift before I could get rearsets to make it GP shift.

It's just so much easier to push down to upshift when accelerating hard or leaning out of corners.
 
So, If you have the DP Rearsets, the DP rear shifter will take away the quick shift feature on the 1199?
 
i have duca bike and didnt need any addition shifter. I was going to get rizoma and i was under the impression that you needed the ducati part which is like 250 bucks. i am not 100% sure on this.
i am sure that duca bike you dont need anything and DP you dont need anything in terms of additional hardware.
 
Superlight1199 said:
I'm planning to buy Rizoma GP shift rear sets. My Ducati dealer tells me I need the Ducati Performance Reverse QS shift rod in order for the QS to work at all. The dealer claims this is due to the fact that the "normal" shift needs a pull signal and the reverse needs a push signal and for the push you need a sensor (the DP Reverse QS rod).

Could anyone please confirm whether I need the DP Reverse QS rod or not for the Rizoma rear sets to work with the quickshifter?

Thanx!
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I have the Rizoma RRC rearsets, and did indeed need the DP DQS reverse shifter rod to convert to reverse shift. Not sure if there are other Rizoma rearsets that have a linkage that can use the standard shift DQS rod to achieve reverse shift. I know there are other aftermarket brand rearsets that have a linkage that allows you to setup reverse shift with the OEM rod, Woodcraft is one that comes to mind.

If you are undecided on brand I would strongly consider Lightech, as the parts they sell to you amd me are the same parts they supply to SBK and MotoGP. However, Lightech rearsets do require the reverse shift DQS rod.

Here is my setup:
rizoma_left_zpsb85942c6.jpg
 
TWR said:
So, If you have the DP Rearsets, the DP rear shifter will take away the quick shift feature on the 1199?
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with the DP rearsets, or really any of the aftermarket rearsets, they allow you to use the stock quick shifter in GP shift or standard through the linkages they provide

Edit: just saw JeffDs post about lightech and Rizoma rearsets requiring the reverse quick shift for GP shift. This is not needed for the DP Rearsets atleast.
 
Cloner said:
I've got some of each. My racer is GP shift....on the right side of the bike. It's shifting with the right foot that takes a couple of laps to get used to. ;)

I don't believe there's any real advantage in either arrangement, it's simply a matter of your personal comfort. I'm comfortable either way as long as I know how the bike shifts when I climb aboard.

I'll never forget a story from VIR. A friend of mine is walking about with Kevin Schwantz at VIR (my friend Chuck is also Kevin's friend Chuck) and they happen upon a guy who is loudly proclaiming the virtues of GP shift. "You gotta have GP shift. You can't race without GP shift. You blah blah blah and ditty o doh. Look...there's Kevin Schwantz. Kevin, tell 'em." Kevin answered "I dunno. I've never raced a bike that shifts like that."

If Kevin's answer won't convince you that it just isn't important, I have nothing to add that will.
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Biaggi also used regular shift. It seems it worked out for him too.
 
Thamer said:
Biaggi also used regular shift. It seems it worked out for him too.
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Matt Mladin dominated AMA Superbike racing when it actually was competitive, and he had an ankle injury that required him to use standard shift.
 
Ive got the DP rearsets set for reverse shift. I like it. Your brain will adjust after some miles and the reverse pattern will seem normal. I ride street only and enjoy the new pattern.
 
TWR said:
So, If you have the DP Rearsets, the DP rear shifter will take away the quick shift feature on the 1199?
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With DP Rear sets, the stock quick shift will work in either Standard or GP shift. Sell your DP reverse quick shifter as its no longer needed with DP Rearsets
 
1stduc1199 said:
Ive got the DP rearsets set for reverse shift. I like it. Your brain will adjust after some miles and the reverse pattern will seem normal. I ride street only and enjoy the new pattern.
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how close is the rod-rear set connection bolt to the chain?

mine is scary close, can you send me a picture of yours?

thx
 

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