RideApart Comparison: 1119R vs. 1199S

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Cool, nice find.


Glad I just went with the "S"

I like the paint job better. Throw on a race seat, a 41t kit, a taller screen and there you go for a lot cheaper.

I'm not even going to upgrade my exhaust. It runs perfect as is.
 
the magazine takeaways seem to always be the same: it's a track bike for expert riders. NOT for street.
 
Those "Troy's settings" are my default settings as delivered in race mode.
 
glad i got the base ABS! since i'm a novice rider who only hits the track a few times a year.

the article was rubbish, in that sense. for me, this bike is easier to ride than the 848. granted, i'm not seeing the rev-limit lights all the time, and i slow down a lot for corners. but beginners (well, 10 years of street riding, second season on the track) can enjoy it just fine.

p.s. why doesn't it say how much the titanium connecting rods cost, can't we buy them? how about the lightened flywheel? doesn't calculate those parts?

p.p.s. i'm pretty sure they ALL have an aluminum tank. just the R scrapes off some paint.
 
A ZR1 Ti Connecting Rod is a tad over $700.... (Each one)

Just something to think about.
 
the article was rubbish, in that sense. for me, this bike is easier to ride than the 848. granted, i'm not seeing the rev-limit lights all the time, and i slow down a lot for corners. but beginners (well, 10 years of street riding, second season on the track) can enjoy it just fine.

This! This bike is much easier to ride than an 848 both in the twisties and in long distances.
 
A ZR1 Ti Connecting Rod is a tad over $700.... (Each one)

Just something to think about.



nice avatar! :)

those were the drawings, here's it in the flesh ... :)

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sorry for the hijack ...
 
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"Fueling that's so perfect at wide-open throttle becomes jerky and unpredictable in city traffic. The R was prone to cutting out while gently decelerating, such as you would do while approaching a red light.

Even with the new-for-2013 engine and exhaust covers that are now standard acros the Panigale range, the bike gets extremely hot at city speeds.

Comfort, while exponentially improved over previous Ducati superbikes, is still"¦limited. Even while riding fast on good roads, vibrations made both my hands and feet numb after just a few miles and your wrists will cry for mercy after 10 minutes in city traffic.

Changing settings through the TFT screen using the turn signal switch and two little buttons located above and below it is terribly confusing and frustrating. Even just switching from Race to Sport mode, you'll find yourself turning on the indicators and swearing.

The R feels like it's fitted with more aggressive brake pads than the S. Great around a track like COTA, where you're regularly braking from very high speed, not so great in traffic, at night, on slippery roads. ABS helps a lot, but the brakes still end up being a little much. "

How can they list these "bads" and then still give it 10/10???? :confused:No wonder no one has faith in bike reviews anymore...:rolleyes:
 
you can get the lighter flywheel for ~260 bucks
 
AWESOME Kope!

Fantastic job!!!!!! so tasteful and the font sizes and agip just perfect!

i also always liked the way the 8xx bikes had the engine size number on the tail.....

nice avatar! :)

those were the drawings, here's it in the flesh ... :)

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sorry for the hijack ...
 
Good read.

That may be the first review I've ever read in which the reviewer complains the brakes are too good.
 
"Fueling that's so perfect at wide-open throttle becomes jerky and unpredictable in city traffic. The R was prone to cutting out while gently decelerating, such as you would do while approaching a red light.

Even with the new-for-2013 engine and exhaust covers that are now standard acros the Panigale range, the bike gets extremely hot at city speeds.

Comfort, while exponentially improved over previous Ducati superbikes, is still"¦limited. Even while riding fast on good roads, vibrations made both my hands and feet numb after just a few miles and your wrists will cry for mercy after 10 minutes in city traffic.

Changing settings through the TFT screen using the turn signal switch and two little buttons located above and below it is terribly confusing and frustrating. Even just switching from Race to Sport mode, you'll find yourself turning on the indicators and swearing.

The R feels like it's fitted with more aggressive brake pads than the S. Great around a track like COTA, where you're regularly braking from very high speed, not so great in traffic, at night, on slippery roads. ABS helps a lot, but the brakes still end up being a little much. "

How can they list these "bads" and then still give it 10/10???? :confused:No wonder no one has faith in bike reviews anymore...:rolleyes:

Because he learned math in America. :D
 

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