Rizoma levers

carldickson · Dec 17, 2012

Hi, I just got some Rizoma levers and it says to unscrew the OEM pin for the existing ones.

Anyone had trouble doing this? I tried and it started stripping the hex nut after one turn.. opps..

Any tips?

carldickson · Dec 17, 2012

ha, just worked it out, there is a small bolt holding it in.....

carldickson · Dec 17, 2012

Ok now how do you get the pin into the rubber housing? bloody impossible!!

littlejohn · Dec 17, 2012

carldickson said:
Ok now how do you get the pin into the rubber housing? bloody impossible!!

a little spit on it will ease your pain

Xbox · Dec 18, 2012

littlejohn said:
a little spit on it will ease your pain

or a little grease

Trauma · Dec 18, 2012

I used 3 in 1 oil

thomaskenyon · Dec 18, 2012

OK... Hold up there gentlemen..

There is a very tiny allen head bolt which holds that nut in place. Take a look very closely.. You must remove that bolt or you will strip the assembly.

It's about the smallest allen head screw I've ever seen.. It's like something you would see on a pair of sunglasses.

Luckily I asked a Ducati tech if there were any issues I would encounter while swithcing out the levers.. He laughed and described exactly what you are doing as very common.

Hope that helps..

Xbox · Dec 18, 2012

thomaskenyon said:
OK... Hold up there gentlemen..

There is a very tiny allen head bolt which holds that nut in place. Take a look very closely.. You must remove that bolt or you will strip the assembly.

It's about the smallest allen head screw I've ever seen.. It's like something you would see on a pair of sunglasses.

Luckily I asked a Ducati tech if there were any issues I would encounter while swithcing out the levers.. He laughed and described exactly what you are doing as very common.

Hope that helps..

Yah, never noticed that.

You don't need to re-use the push pins with the DP levers, as they get replaced.

littlejohn · Dec 18, 2012

thomaskenyon said:
OK... Hold up there gentlemen..

There is a very tiny allen head bolt which holds that nut in place. Take a look very closely.. You must remove that bolt or you will strip the assembly.

It's about the smallest allen head screw I've ever seen.. It's like something you would see on a pair of sunglasses.

Luckily I asked a Ducati tech if there were any issues I would encounter while swithcing out the levers.. He laughed and described exactly what you are doing as very common.

Hope that helps..

it's a set screw.. 1.5mm Allen is what you'll need. they're pretty common in the rc world. normally used to hold pinion gears on motor shafts.

Xbox · Dec 18, 2012

carldickson said:
Anyone had trouble doing this? I tried and it started stripping the hex nut after one turn.. opps..

Dude, are you sure it was stripping - how could you tell?

Could have just been the nylon collar coming out of the lock-nut.

southeastduc · Dec 18, 2012

How did you guys like the new rizoma levers? Is this just a bling investment, or do they make a noticeable difference. I don't really mind the stock levers and generally just stay with them. So was wondering what I'm missing out on.

zvez · Dec 18, 2012

to get the pin back into the rubber grommet, is TOUGH!

What I did was lube the pin with grease and use two dental pic tools to stretch the opening of the rubber grommet and slip it in, it's not easy and took fiddling but I just didn't want to cut the rubber.

carldickson said:
Ok now how do you get the pin into the rubber housing? bloody impossible!!

Trauma · Dec 18, 2012

I have the Evotechs, and other than bling, I like fewer fingers on the lever. I used a socket (as in wrench) as my punch to remove the bushings from my OEMs, then as I said a little 3 in 1 oil on the gromment, then just kept working then pin in the oil untill seated correctly.

jarelj · Dec 18, 2012

zvez said:
to get the pin back into the rubber grommet, is TOUGH!

You guys are making this WAY too difficult!

The rubber grommet pops out of the master cylinder, after you've removed the stock lever/pin just pull outward on the grommet and use a pick to carefully pry it out around the edge, pop it over the pin as you install the new lever, then just press the edge of the grommet back into its seat in the master cylinder.

Trauma · Dec 18, 2012

jarelj said:
You guys are making this WAY too difficult! The rubber grommet pops out of the master cylinder, after you've removed the stock lever/pin just pull outward on the grommet and use a pick to carefully pry it out around the edge, pop it over the pin as you install the new lever, then just press the edge of the grommet back into its seat in the master cylinder.

Hey, if we wanted to do it the right way, we would have asked someone that owned a Ducati shop how to do it, rather than explore/discuss amongst ourselves

littlejohn · Dec 18, 2012

Xbox said:
Dude, are you sure it was stripping - how could you tell?

Could have just been the nylon collar coming out of the lock-nut.

Nah... it's a set screw. If it isn't backed off first, you will strip the thread.

zvez · Dec 18, 2012

I tried but was never able to free the grommet from the master cyl (this is on my streetfighter)

jarelj said:
You guys are making this WAY too difficult! The rubber grommet pops out of the master cylinder, after you've removed the stock lever/pin just pull outward on the grommet and use a pick to carefully pry it out around the edge, pop it over the pin as you install the new lever, then just press the edge of the grommet back into its seat in the master cylinder.

supduc10 · Dec 18, 2012

zvez said:
I tried but was never able to free the grommet from the master cyl (this is on my streetfighter)

When i looked at mine it appeared to have a circlip holding the grommet/dust seal in the end of the cylinder. Anyway onto mechanicals,I simply pinched the grommet with some skinny nose pliers so the push rod hole became a slot and it went in no problem. I was fitting Lightech levers to my beloved. To tell you the truth I dont particularly like the levers. Clutch feels fine but the brake feels a touch spongy now,like the lever isn"t as sturdy as the OE item. Also there is some slight wobble in the bushings and extra clearance between the cylinder body pivot point and the thickness of the lever. Not impressed.

Trauma · Dec 18, 2012

supduc10 said:
When i looked at mine it appeared to have a circlip holding the grommet/dust seal in the end of the cylinder. Anyway onto mechanicals,I simply pinched the grommet with some skinny nose pliers so the push rod hole became a slot and it went in no problem. I was fitting Lightech levers to my beloved. To tell you the truth I dont particularly like the levers. Clutch feels fine but the brake feels a touch spongy now,like the lever isn"t as sturdy as the OE item. Also there is some slight wobble in the bushings and extra clearance between the cylinder body pivot point and the thickness of the lever. Not impressed.

Hey, but do they look good? That's all that's important

Xbox · Dec 18, 2012

littlejohn said:
Nah... it's a set screw. If it isn't backed off first, you will strip the thread.

Just to be clear, I'm referring to nut B:

I held it with a spanner, while loosening pin A. The master cylinder lower flange is threaded, so as you said, backing off a little made it much easier.

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