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Yesterday's race proves that you don't have to be the faster guy to win a race. I think if Rossi's bike kept running, he would've won. On Iannone, if the learns how to stay inside going into Turn one
 
TurboLag said:
Can't see where he had this substantial reserve. He was unable to attack anywhere but T1, where he missed the apex every time he tried. As said, he wasn't fastest on any point of the track except when he over cooked the braking point... JL was the boss of Misano, saying anything else is being ignorant...
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749dark said:
Stoked to see Lorenzo take the win although it would have been great to see Marquez also get the top step. Great race at the front.

Was pretty happy seeing Rossi's bike let go. After last year's antics I can't help but think he's a cry baby (albeit an extremely talented one).
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Good Points All.
 
Thamer said:
I just watched a bunch of Rossi fans burn in a number 93 in effigy, morons. I'm starting to have a problem with the fact that Rossi encourages this kind of behavior from his sycophantic follows.
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Come on Thamer, all in good fun. At the end of the race I burned my Whore Gay effigy.

I thought it was bad luck for Rossi. He was looking good for second. I am not much of a MM fan, but I think he deserved to win at the end. If the bikes were equal he would have won.

He out rode Lorenzo at the end.

Its shaping up to be an exciting season.
 
Is it wrong I didn't read this post just skimmed it looking for M4rk's response?
 
TurboLag said:
Can't see where he had this substantial reserve. He was unable to attack anywhere but T1, where he missed the apex every time he tried. As said, he wasn't fastest on any point of the track except when he over cooked the braking point... JL was the boss of Misano, saying anything else is being ignorant...
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Anyone who does't share your prejudicial point of view is ignorant? Ignorance (lack of education) prejudice (contempt prior to investigation) I guess you have never dogged it behind the leader and played with their mind in a race before.
If you watch the footage over again and study the 46 body language you will understand. Carry on with your kippers and pickled herring.(prejudicial stereotyping)
 
centeroff said:
Anyone who does't share your prejudicial point of view is ignorant? Ignorance (lack of education) prejudice (contempt prior to investigation) I guess you have never dogged it behind the leader and played with their mind in a race before.
If you watch the footage over again and study the 46 body language you will understand. Carry on with your kippers and pickled herring.(prejudicial stereotyping)
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Rossi had the race won -- was only a matter of time if his engine didnt blow.

maybe Marktard and this guy that has the stupidity to intimate that someone is ignorant based on essentially speculative observations given not only actual race but qualifying and the history of said qualifying really does need to run along and fluff Rossi...
 
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JL looked calm and collected throughout most of the race, didn't have to do anything but ride his pace to fend off challenges until MM had a charge at the end. Rossi was all over the place, and could only get his wheels ahead diving into T1, which he missed every time he tried. How is that having a substantial reserve? And for qualifying history, he was towed to pole by Viñales. Not even close to owning even a single sector.

And regarding personal attacks in the discussion, wtf? Why don't you post a solid argument instead? I know you can do better than that..
 
^^^ so....you saw Rossi run 9 of 23 laps and can speculate that he had no chance of overtaking Jlo in the other 14 laps if his engine didn't blow. Now that's ignorance... Maybe he could have won or not but nobody will know. Unless you can see the future and in that case give me the winning lottery numbers.
 
There's a reason they line up on Sunday. No one knows the outcome until the end. Things happen. Sometimes it's Rossi getting the better of Stoner (Laguna Seca 2008), sometimes it's Lorenzo Rossi @ Mugello. The race had it all, drama, comedy and tragedy.
 
Ofcourse he could win if things pan out absolutely perfect, and if JL's tires would fall off worse than Rossi's. He proved at Jerez he's the very best at looking after his tires when nobody else are able to. What I can't see is his claimed advantage at Misano. He was towed to a strange pole, was overtaken at the start, and couldn't really do anything except bombing into T1 until his engine let go. You do have a point though, I can't know for sure about ifs and buts, but that also goes for the yellow boys..
 
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flobrandx said:
^^^ so....you saw Rossi run 9 of 23 laps and can speculate that he had no chance of overtaking Jlo in the other 14 laps if his engine didn't blow. Now that's ignorance... Maybe he could have won or not but nobody will know. Unless you can see the future and in that case give me the winning lottery numbers.
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lest we forget that MM also bombed the turn 2x .. and he almost won after trailing in 3rd... lol... what asshatery..
 
My guess is that Rossi did have a chance to win, but he and his team decided to put all gambles on the table to get that chance. Mugello is Rossi's home turf, so it makes sense to gamble everything (bar crashing) to win that race.
In doing so, they make a decision to tune the hell out of that machine, which unfortunately in this case went bad. Such is gamble, sometimes you lose.
But I would believe that is what may have led to the yamaha blowing up. Probably to make up for Rossi's deficiency in other areas, or simply a necessity considering the other threats.

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TurboLag said:
Ofcourse he could win if things pan out absolutely perfect, and if JL's tires would fall off worse than Rossi's. He proved at Jerez he's the very best at looking after his tires when nobody else are able to. What I can't see is his claimed advantage at Misano. He was towed to a strange pole, was overtaken at the start, and couldn't really do anything except bombing into T1 until his engine let go. You do have a point though, I can't know for sure about ifs and buts, but that also goes for the yellow boys..
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Mugello, not Misano... Misano is a different track located just outside of San Marino...

Your argument seems to be an emotional with just enough "facts" to make it sound reasonable, kind of like when evangelical Christians try to use "science" to disprove real science...

Rossi couldn't do anything?

Well you are right, he did run wide several times with his attacks on Turn 1, but he was able to get back on Jorge's rear wheel in less than half a lap, each time. Each time Valentino would miss turn one, he would streak away from Marquez and stick to Lorenzo...

Could he have gotten past Lorenzo? He was certainly close enough to if he at many points, but seemed content to attempt turn 1 multiple times and ways. While Lorenzo seemed to loose ground to Valentino in every sector during the race, he did an AMAZING job on the brakes into turn one.

However, there were 14 more laps to go, and Valentino constantly showed better pace through all sections of the track during the race.

Would Valentino have won? Don't know, but given that he showed better pace in every section of the race on Sunday and he has historically won the majority (all?) of his duels with Lorenzo, I think it is foolish to suggest he didn't have at least a 50/50 chance.
 
Todd H said:
Mugello, not Misano... Misano is a different track located just outside of San Marino...

Your argument seems to be an emotional with just enough "facts" to make it sound reasonable, kind of like when evangelical Christians try to use "science" to disprove real science...

Rossi couldn't do anything?

Well you are right, he did run wide several times with his attacks on Turn 1, but he was able to get back on Jorge's rear wheel in less than half a lap, each time. Each time Valentino would miss turn one, he would streak away from Marquez and stick to Lorenzo...

Could he have gotten past Lorenzo? He was certainly close enough to if he at many points, but seemed content to attempt turn 1 multiple times and ways. While Lorenzo seemed to loose ground to Valentino in every sector during the race, he did an AMAZING job on the brakes into turn one.

However, there were 14 more laps to go, and Valentino constantly showed better pace through all sections of the track during the race.

Would Valentino have won? Don't know, but given that he showed better pace in every section of the race on Sunday and he has historically won the majority (all?) of his duels with Lorenzo, I think it is foolish to suggest he didn't have at least a 50/50 chance.
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Mugello, yeah! :D Haven't slept for the last 2 days...
"Emotional", "Regligious" and downplaying the events counting against a Rossi win? Come on.. You don't need those suppression techniques if you got a valid argument. I'm all for a discussion, and I don't have anything against Rossi winning. But what I don't like is his tendency last year to sway the crowd so bad against everybody else. It's destructive for the sport. VR46-fans are looking more like a mob every day. Someone observed them burning 93-stuff, and they booed the entire podium after the most thrilling race in a long time, seemingly because Rossi didn't win...
Yes, Rossi was fast down the main straight, but JL wasn't even phased until Marquez passed him in the end. Marquez was also on a different tire strategy than the Yamahas. The more realistic scenario is that Marquez would catch up and Rossi would have to spend more energy to fend him off rather than overtaking Lorenzo. If Rossi had made the pass stick at T1, I'm quite sure Lorenzo would have more to give, as he showed when repassing Marquez in the chicane.
But who knows? My point is, I can't see where Rossi would have this massive advantage this weekend. All I know is we were served a properly thrilling race.
 
hahaha love it blown engine fat lady is warming up.

normally i dont like people losing by crashes or problems but in this case f him.
 
centeroff said:
Rossi was playing with the 99 he had a substantial reserve in hand. What kills me is why in the HELL didn't Yamaha slap a new engine in the 46 too after the 99 puked it's mill. And when was the last time anyone saw a factory yamaha moto gp engine let go in a points race?
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must have been those mind games when he couldnt pass him 3 times . im sure he was playing with him bwhahahah. boom out of the race
 
TurboLag said:
Can't see where he had this substantial reserve. He was unable to attack anywhere but T1, where he missed the apex every time he tried. As said, he wasn't fastest on any point of the track except when he over cooked the braking point... JL was the boss of Misano, saying anything else is being ignorant...
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rossi fans take the facts vaccine. no matter the facts they are immune. he had no reserve and jlo was amazing on the brakes into T1.
 
jyli19 said:
Yesterday's race proves that you don't have to be the faster guy to win a race. I think if Rossi's bike kept running, he would've won. On Iannone, if the learns how to stay inside going into Turn one
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why do you think this whats your logic on this? oh you like him got it
 

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