Samco Hose Install (.... this, taking a break!)

topolino said:

Did you take the water distributor assembly off the vertical head to get the two pipes on? I will be fitting this kit to my new bike but it actually looks easier to remove the whole airbox and throttle assembly to do it. I stripped my last two bikes down to the engine so not too concerned about doing this as it means the pipes will be easy to access and there is a bunch of other stuff I can do with the front end removed. Got the engine support tool on order from Ducati, so hopefully it will prove of use.

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I did, but if you have the ability to break it down, do it. I picked up some tricks like using water soluble lube on the inlets and heating the hoses up in boiling water to make them flexible. I should be able to get that to work when my replacements come.

TransNone13 said:

Hot shot, reread what I wrote. I said ENTERING via radiant heat.

Try to sharp shoot me again .

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I did and came up with the same result. . .

You are saying there will be reduced heat transfer from the engine to the coolant via radiant heat from the hoses (as in heat will escape the hoses rather than going to the coolant/radiator) ? Because thats the way I read it. You're claiming its an advantage so anything that is "reduction in heat" would be an advantage because increasing the heat transfer to the coolant wouldn't be ? right ?

Well thats exactly what I said is not the case. The silicone hoses are better insulators of heat - therefore they will carry MORE heat because the radiant loss of heat through silicone is WORSE than through rubber. So instead of the hoses losing heat and the radiator exchanging heat - it will essentially be the radiator exchanging heat because the hoses are not working as well as the previous rubber ones. . (now that contributes to a minor part of the overall heat equation, but you can't claim it as an advantage)

Yawn.... Physics aside, my ride test says otherwise. If it was the coolant flush so be it (same coolant) . But it was considerably lower. Really indifferent over here. If the ambient heat is higher than the coolant temp, then the hoses keeping it out would seem as an advantage to me.

Here's an e-hug.

TransNone13 said:

I did, but if you have the ability to break it down, do it. I picked up some tricks like using water soluble lube on the inlets and heating the hoses up in boiling water to make them flexible. I should be able to get that to work when my replacements come.

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Thanks. Figured you hadas it looked from the pics as if you'd removed the bolts holding it to the head. Looks like a real ..... to get to ordinarily. The workshop manual shows their replacement with the airbox off which obviously makes it a cinch but fail to point out you've got to take half the bloody bike apart tot change them! As I said I'll probably strip the bike down and do it whilst the bike is apart. Kudos to you though for managing to get them on. The more I look through the workshop manual the more I realise how the loss of a trellis frame and how tightly packed the bike is with component layouts and wiring, is gonna make life very complicated. Me I love a challenge so looking forward to ripping the bike apart. 10 out 10 for your perseverance.

I didn't get the last two hoses on yet, I ruined them... I have some on order and WILL get this done without cracking the bike in half.

And yes, this bike is a trip to work on lol. It makes sense if you have a team of mechanics lol.

TransNone13 said:

I didn't get the last two hoses on yet, I ruined them... I have some on order and WILL get this done without cracking the bike in half.

And yes, this bike is a trip to work on lol. It makes sense if you have a team of mechanics lol.

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Good luck with getting the next ones on.


As for radiant heat loss being less or not in answer to "anthem's" remarks, check this link out for more info:

Samco Product Explorer

Personally I don't give a monkey's ... if they reduce the temperature or not. They just look better than the cheap .... Ducati use and they don't perish like ordinary rubber. Had them fitted to my last three Dukes with zero problems or side effects.

topolino said:

Good luck with getting the next ones on.


As for radiant heat loss being less or not in answer to "anthem's" remarks, check this link out for more info:

Samco Product Explorer

Personally I don't give a monkey's ... if they reduce the temperature or not. They just look better than the cheap .... Ducati use and they don't perish like ordinary rubber. Had them fitted to my last three Dukes with zero problems or side effects.

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Lol same here with previous bikes.

Although I have the SAMCO red tubing on my 1199, I actually prefer the Ducati Performance Red & Aluminum racing kit on my 1098.