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Straight up? Nah. The GSW's were the favorite to win it all this year and those odds weren't even 1:1.
I figure it's four way battle for the championship. I'll go $100 for 4/1.
I figure it's four way battle for the championship. I'll go $100 for 4/1.
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You clearly don't know how to read. I never told you to STFU, I just said member have in the past on many occasions as they are tired of your constant beating a dead horse to death. And now when someone is doing it to you, you're telling them to shut up.
Like I said 43 y o man stuck in a 11 y o mind set constantly begging for attention. Constantly starting threads that most people have seen before. You're the GOAT of this forum alright. Greatest Of All Trolls.
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i love this post and agree with it 100% unfortunately i didnt write it first but i will share
Michelin Accomplished.
This championship is as legit as WWF and most of us still taking stock in the results. Fascinating. Viñalez, the championship leader was eliminated by a tire Rossie gerrymandering, and we're all like, great ride by Rossi? But but, dry vote, democracy.
Any result from the moment the CEO acted as Rossi's sport agent in the closed kingdom of Dorna took out any legitimacy of future results, but let's shelf that? Why exactly? It's MotoWWF every race, where the game is: beat Rossi against every possible advantage. It's really amazing Rossi doesn’t win every race.
Look again at the coverage, look closely to the screen messages, the audio, the glamour camera shots. The entire thing is telling you one thing. And it's only become increasingly sophisticated over the last 10-15 years. Why would this race or last race be any different?
Rossi's participation in this pseudo contest is artificial. It's contrived for the consumption of those not aware or caring about how results are manufactured. This is the sport that petitioned to nullify rules in favor of Rossi to put him in the similar situation now, that a slight attrition would propel him as a title winner.
When we see Rossi being competitive, does the thought cross people's mind (the few that are aware of it) what might tires (and every tangible and intangible advantage) designed for him do to make him competitive against a field that must acquiesce? Or are we just caught up in the moment, look, it's so exciting, it's like a motorcycle foot race?
It's a ........ contest folks, because the organizers have made it a game of Rossi+advantages vs everybody. Today it cheated Petrux from going into the record books as a GP winner. Today it cheated Viñalez from retaining the points lead. Today it artificially put Rossi into the records as a race winner. It's a manipulate record.
Michelin Accomplished.
This championship is as legit as WWF and most of us still taking stock in the results. Fascinating. Viñalez, the championship leader was eliminated by a tire Rossie gerrymandering, and we're all like, great ride by Rossi? But but, dry vote, democracy.
Any result from the moment the CEO acted as Rossi's sport agent in the closed kingdom of Dorna took out any legitimacy of future results, but let's shelf that? Why exactly? It's MotoWWF every race, where the game is: beat Rossi against every possible advantage. It's really amazing Rossi doesn’t win every race.
Look again at the coverage, look closely to the screen messages, the audio, the glamour camera shots. The entire thing is telling you one thing. And it's only become increasingly sophisticated over the last 10-15 years. Why would this race or last race be any different?
Rossi's participation in this pseudo contest is artificial. It's contrived for the consumption of those not aware or caring about how results are manufactured. This is the sport that petitioned to nullify rules in favor of Rossi to put him in the similar situation now, that a slight attrition would propel him as a title winner.
When we see Rossi being competitive, does the thought cross people's mind (the few that are aware of it) what might tires (and every tangible and intangible advantage) designed for him do to make him competitive against a field that must acquiesce? Or are we just caught up in the moment, look, it's so exciting, it's like a motorcycle foot race?
It's a ........ contest folks, because the organizers have made it a game of Rossi+advantages vs everybody. Today it cheated Petrux from going into the record books as a GP winner. Today it cheated Viñalez from retaining the points lead. Today it artificially put Rossi into the records as a race winner. It's a manipulate record.
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Who wrote that? It sounds like a Trump supporter justifying when things don't go Trumps way. Rossi might prefer the latest version of tyre to the other choice but overall he has much less advantage than in the past which makes it even more impressive he won Assen.
I wouldn't deny that anyone invovled in the management of MotoGP would want Rossi to be there as long as possible but those arguments do not work for me. Rossi is so good on the brakes that the stiffer carcass works for him but otherwise he is broadly the same as Vinales in what he needs to make the Yamaha work.
The Michelin era has made the championship much less predicatable and way more interesting to watch. The satellite bikes all have a genuine chance to win if they have a good enough rider where as a couple years back you had to be Rossi/Marquez/Lorenzo or some other rider on a factory bike to stand any chance of winning more than the odd lucky race.
Rossi is riding as strong now as he ever did, but fortunately there is such good competition now that it's not enough to guarantee the win. Look at the lap times and points between the top riders, it doesn't get any better for the viewer. Plus Ducati is currently leading
I wouldn't deny that anyone invovled in the management of MotoGP would want Rossi to be there as long as possible but those arguments do not work for me. Rossi is so good on the brakes that the stiffer carcass works for him but otherwise he is broadly the same as Vinales in what he needs to make the Yamaha work.
The Michelin era has made the championship much less predicatable and way more interesting to watch. The satellite bikes all have a genuine chance to win if they have a good enough rider where as a couple years back you had to be Rossi/Marquez/Lorenzo or some other rider on a factory bike to stand any chance of winning more than the odd lucky race.
Rossi is riding as strong now as he ever did, but fortunately there is such good competition now that it's not enough to guarantee the win. Look at the lap times and points between the top riders, it doesn't get any better for the viewer. Plus Ducati is currently leading
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I'd love to see Stoner battling with Marquez. Both of them are much more my style of riding. It seems to me that now Marquez is being a bit more 'sensible' he doesn't have the advantage in sheer speed that he had a few years back when he was willing to put everything on the line all the time to win. Rossi on the Yamaha seems to have more in reserve when it comes to pushing at the end of the race than Marquez who is permanently on the limit of the Hondas capabilities.
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I do think a lot of it is that Marquez has matured a little bit. He still crashes and doesn't realize it more than anyone else on the grid though. That front end slide mid-race was insane. Pretty sure he's some sort of genetic experiment where they infused cat DNA into a human.
There is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to Rossi. If Rossi is doing badly, then he is over the hill. If he does well, it is a conspiracy to help him succeed.
Bottom line, arguing over Rossi is pointless (unless you are troll). Those who hate him will always hate him. Those who love him will always love him. And those of us who are rational will remain the tiny minority.
Bottom line, arguing over Rossi is pointless (unless you are troll). Those who hate him will always hate him. Those who love him will always love him. And those of us who are rational will remain the tiny minority.
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it is what it is.
Rossi is the face of the sport.
it will change in a few years. in the meantime, they are trying to milk that cow.
it's ok to be obsessed over a sports character (either way) ... some wiminns were even into Tiger Woods.. others hated him (his wife). LOL
as far as stirring the pot goes - if the tires, the chassis and everything else is solely done for rossi, so be it, as long as it produces exciting races like the last ones !!!!
Rossi is the face of the sport.
it will change in a few years. in the meantime, they are trying to milk that cow.
it's ok to be obsessed over a sports character (either way) ... some wiminns were even into Tiger Woods.. others hated him (his wife). LOL
as far as stirring the pot goes - if the tires, the chassis and everything else is solely done for rossi, so be it, as long as it produces exciting races like the last ones !!!!
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That front wheel slide was immense. I've taken mini bikes out at kart tracks a few times and one of the best things about them is that I was able to slide the front wheel which I've never really been brave enough to do on a big bike. How Marquez does that like he does is incredible.
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Not sure it's entirely accurate to suggest that, as the OP put it, this BS Contest (if indeed in any way contrived) somehow "cheated" Petrux. In the post race interview he blamed it on a lack of blue flags, causing a backmarker to mire his last lap challenge for the lead. That's just bad marshalling. As for Vinales, he simply crashed, with no intervention from anyone else. A conspiracy that does not make. To win, first you have to finish, as the tired old cliche goes. I'm not in any camp as far as the riders are concerned BUT, Rossi brings in a not-inconsiderable amount of revenue to the sport and sadly that is a commodity that Dorna, like any business, ultimately need. I'm not sure engineering races and/or results however, is a tactic in their arsenal.
Rossi, like any other sportsman/woman will ultimately come to the end of his professional career, as age or diminishing returns creep up on him and at 38 years of age, I am confident he is fully aware that his days are numbered. However, given his marketability, whilst he can still win a race and beat his opposition (unaided other than by the bike he sits on and skill, unless the OP knows otherwise), then he is unlikely to be passed up by the team just yet. Politically and financially, I'm sure Dorna would want him to stick around as along as possible, and we all know that can't happen (at least in a racing capacity), so I can't necessarily blame them for not wanting to bite the hand that in part feeds them. Even if that manifests itself as ingratiating themselves and fuelling the hype. That aside, if he didn't believe he could win and he certainly doesn't need the money to stay, he would have hung up his boots last year, rather than just circulating around the asphalt, irrespective of his "cash cow" status to Dorna.
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Rossi, like any other sportsman/woman will ultimately come to the end of his professional career, as age or diminishing returns creep up on him and at 38 years of age, I am confident he is fully aware that his days are numbered. However, given his marketability, whilst he can still win a race and beat his opposition (unaided other than by the bike he sits on and skill, unless the OP knows otherwise), then he is unlikely to be passed up by the team just yet. Politically and financially, I'm sure Dorna would want him to stick around as along as possible, and we all know that can't happen (at least in a racing capacity), so I can't necessarily blame them for not wanting to bite the hand that in part feeds them. Even if that manifests itself as ingratiating themselves and fuelling the hype. That aside, if he didn't believe he could win and he certainly doesn't need the money to stay, he would have hung up his boots last year, rather than just circulating around the asphalt, irrespective of his "cash cow" status to Dorna.
Post edited as I originally credited mark419ny as penning the last post but realised it was from the MotoGP forum.
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Yes I said that in the opening. That I didn't write it but agrees with it. FYI the rules state that the flags come from race direction not the Marshall's so race direction did not tell the Marshall's to wave the blue flag. I wonder why
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There is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to Rossi. If Rossi is doing badly, then he is over the hill. If he does well, it is a conspiracy to help him succeed.
Bottom line, arguing over Rossi is pointless (unless you are troll). Those who hate him will always hate him. Those who love him will always love him. And those of us who are rational will remain the tiny minority.
Contrary to popular belief i don't actually hate rossi. He is entertaining. The problem is every rossi fan that sees everything through yellow glasses while wearing a yellow wig. Make you can't stand the guy thus I have to post the stats and results and facts that they don't like but can't prove the opposite. As I have said he won a race means absolutely nothing
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Who wrote that? It sounds like a Trump supporter justifying when things don't go Trumps way. Rossi might prefer the latest version of tyre to the other choice but overall he has much less advantage than in the past which makes it even more impressive he won Assen.
I wouldn't deny that anyone invovled in the management of MotoGP would want Rossi to be there as long as possible but those arguments do not work for me. Rossi is so good on the brakes that the stiffer carcass works for him but otherwise he is broadly the same as Vinales in what he needs to make the Yamaha work.
The Michelin era has made the championship much less predicatable and way more interesting to watch. The satellite bikes all have a genuine chance to win if they have a good enough rider where as a couple years back you had to be Rossi/Marquez/Lorenzo or some other rider on a factory bike to stand any chance of winning more than the odd lucky race.
Rossi is riding as strong now as he ever did, but fortunately there is such good competition now that it's not enough to guarantee the win. Look at the lap times and points between the top riders, it doesn't get any better for the viewer. Plus Ducati is currently leading
First it was written by jumkie over at motogp I neber said I wrote it clearly stayed in the first sentence.
Second it's been proven ad FACT that rossi doesn't vote based on what he prefers but rather what will hurt the competition the most.
Third Obama supporters and the crying Hillary supporters do the same thing so let's leave that somewhere else.
Hey maybe the Russians ruined the tires
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