Jjsc6 makes a good point. I have seen the Panigale V4. It does not share the same frame or swingarm design as the current Panigale so why dump R&D money into the CF pieces for the SL? but you guys are correct, that's where they are getting the numbers from. Not sure why they need one for training. It's the same platform as the 1299 except for some of the electronics and they can't even trouble shoot the base 2012 models accurately. Can you really see someone taking one of these things to the local Ducati House of Horrors when it ..... itself? Same problem as we had with our jets in the Navy. Designed by PhDs, maintained by GEDs.