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endodoc is on fire with this thread my new best friend
This is what $85K gets you!
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endodoc is on fire with this thread my new best friend
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in your country? am i missing something here it says you are from NY. now i know its communist now in the city but last time i looked its still the united states.
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500 limited production is NOT flooding the market. Before Audi, Ducati couldn't afford to come with more new high end bikes; it costs a lot to develop a new model. How many production models can you point to with these carbon pieces on it and do they weigh as little? And with 215-220 hp? How does this bike FEEL? I have talked to a couple of people that have rode the 1199SL and they said it was incomparable to the R or other high end superbikes and that if possible, it's worth getting. Still, I think 85 is too much but I like it enough to where if I were rich enough (stinkin rich) I'd get it because I do think it's unique enough. Some of you say you can afford it (it's possible for me) but we really can't because we think about it too much. Can you toss 85K away without thinking about it? That's what a sportbike purchase is. Too many won't track a high end sportbike because they honestly spent money they couldn't afford to lose; hopefully they are getting their money's worth on the street but in my mind, you'd do better with your investment on the track for these kind of bikes.
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Maybe he meant "county" .. lol j/k
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yes, don't believe everything you read online
I'm visiting my family a lot in NY and since its a .com forum..
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"Of course if you absolutely have to have that Limited Edition top clamp well then by all means, get that check book out" Post #8
If history repeats itself then the limited edition 1299SL and the 1199SL will be worth a lot of money in 20 or 30 years time. Why do I say that ?
Have a look at the prices for a stock untouched 1975 to 1978 Ducati 900SS. Up to 85K USD. Lets not even start to talk about a Green Frame. That is north of $150K. And there was over 6000 900SS built by Ducati. Guys like me who could not afford a $3500 Ducati 900 SS back in the day or who did own one and want to relive their youth are snapping these things up.
If you own a stock untouched clean 1199SL or 1299SL in 30 years time, it will be priceless to the 50 to 60 year old guys in the future.
But the homebuilt modified bike will be hard to sell for chicken ..... It might be a faster better bike but the future collector will not want or trust the backyard home mechanic. That is just the way it is. That is the way it is now and the way it will be in 30 years.
So if you are lucky enough to have a 1199SL or 1299SL with a number on the stock, keep all the OEM parts to put back on because that is how the collector will want to buy it.
Collector car market is the same. What is a genuine 1969 Ford 429 Boss Mustang worth ? $295K at Legendary Motors.
Green Frame on Bevel Heaven 140,000 Euros
1976 900SS $80K AUD on Bevel Heaven.
If I ever get the chance to buy an 1199SL I will buy it. (Still buying lottery tickets) I think the colour scheme on that bike and the gear it has is great.
I think it comes down to the fact that if you have the money and you like it you buy it. If you do not like it you do not buy it.
If history repeats itself then the limited edition 1299SL and the 1199SL will be worth a lot of money in 20 or 30 years time. Why do I say that ?
Have a look at the prices for a stock untouched 1975 to 1978 Ducati 900SS. Up to 85K USD. Lets not even start to talk about a Green Frame. That is north of $150K. And there was over 6000 900SS built by Ducati. Guys like me who could not afford a $3500 Ducati 900 SS back in the day or who did own one and want to relive their youth are snapping these things up.
If you own a stock untouched clean 1199SL or 1299SL in 30 years time, it will be priceless to the 50 to 60 year old guys in the future.
But the homebuilt modified bike will be hard to sell for chicken ..... It might be a faster better bike but the future collector will not want or trust the backyard home mechanic. That is just the way it is. That is the way it is now and the way it will be in 30 years.
So if you are lucky enough to have a 1199SL or 1299SL with a number on the stock, keep all the OEM parts to put back on because that is how the collector will want to buy it.
Collector car market is the same. What is a genuine 1969 Ford 429 Boss Mustang worth ? $295K at Legendary Motors.
Green Frame on Bevel Heaven 140,000 Euros
1976 900SS $80K AUD on Bevel Heaven.
If I ever get the chance to buy an 1199SL I will buy it. (Still buying lottery tickets) I think the colour scheme on that bike and the gear it has is great.
I think it comes down to the fact that if you have the money and you like it you buy it. If you do not like it you do not buy it.
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If you have doubts about validity of the SL series I suggest you read the Performance Bikes issue that compares the Pani R with the 1199 SL and Shakeys BSB Pani race bike.
Essentially the SL destroys the R and is far closer to the performance of the BSB bike than one might think possible. This is all undertaken in the hands of Michael Rutter, someone who knows proper "fast" from "BS" fast.
The rest of us "arm chair racers" can say what ever the f**k we want, but when someone like Rutter says that Ducatis recipe of focused light weight in the form of the SL, whatever the cost, has verifiable, significant results, we ought to take heed, regardless of our prejudice. Essentially, someone who has far more credibility than any of us is saying, "the sum of the parts is worth a significant margin on the stop watch". We can debate endlessly whether we consider it "worth it".
I believe very strongly that Ducati should be applauded for aggressively pursuing the basic tenant of sportbike design; the fact that a lighter motorcycle is a better motorcycle, and that lighter motorcycle never comes cheap.
Essentially the SL destroys the R and is far closer to the performance of the BSB bike than one might think possible. This is all undertaken in the hands of Michael Rutter, someone who knows proper "fast" from "BS" fast.
The rest of us "arm chair racers" can say what ever the f**k we want, but when someone like Rutter says that Ducatis recipe of focused light weight in the form of the SL, whatever the cost, has verifiable, significant results, we ought to take heed, regardless of our prejudice. Essentially, someone who has far more credibility than any of us is saying, "the sum of the parts is worth a significant margin on the stop watch". We can debate endlessly whether we consider it "worth it".
I believe very strongly that Ducati should be applauded for aggressively pursuing the basic tenant of sportbike design; the fact that a lighter motorcycle is a better motorcycle, and that lighter motorcycle never comes cheap.
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the fact that you buy lottery tickets shows your lack of basic econ understanding and appreciation of how ruinous the whole lottery scam is, esp for the poor (regressive tax predicated on hopium). if you are buying bikes in 2017 to hold for 30yrs for investment purposes, well, then, it makes sense that you'd give away even more of your money to the government for essentially yet another tax scam, but this one with a 1-in-whatever-the-......-odds-are carrot at the end of that ticket. (& in 30yrs the 1299SL's carbon fiber swingarm and "frame" will most likely be degraded for race/road use LOL.)
there's a nice lyric in this song that's quite germane LOL:
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