Trading L2 for L4 ???

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Twistedracer

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So who's planning on switching from these twin to the L4?
I'm keeping mine but was planning on an R as my next addition. Looks like my R will be an L4 to join my twins.
 
I've been holding off on the upgrade waiting for this next iteration Twisted, I'll keep my Pani but will definitely be talking to my dealer about the L4.
 
Twistedracer said:
So who's planning on switching from these twin to the L4?
I'm keeping mine but was planning on an R as my next addition. Looks like my R will be an L4 to join my twins.
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Do we really think this is going to happen. I have both twins and 4s and there is nothing like a twin.... :D:D
 
was going to get a 2018 repsol marquez (didnt want the first run in 2017) i will never buy another ducati but if they come out with a new bike with a v4 im in. not selling any bikes to get it though
 
mark419ny said:
was going to get a 2018 repsol marquez (didnt want the first run in 2017) i will never buy another ducati but if they come out with a new bike with a v4 im in. not selling any bikes to get it though
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Same here on not selling any bikes. So the V4 will have 2-3 years of being sorted by the time I buy mine.
 
For a bike used on the street, no way I'm going lower displacement unless I absolutely have to. A high strung 1000cc 4 cyl will never measure up to a 1300cc 2 cyl when it comes to power band. Does anyone have a source for the forced 1000cc claim? The reason twins are allowed 1198cc isn't because they are twins in itself, but rather because with twice as many cylinders, a 4 cyl can fit twice as many valves and thus they get better top end flow...
 
TurboLag said:
.... The reason twins are allowed 1198cc isn't because they are twins in itself, but rather because with twice as many cylinders, a 4 cyl can fit twice as many valves and thus they get better top end flow...
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I'm sure that's part of it but you simply can't spin a 112mm piston as fast as in IL4 and expect it to be reliable. Increased displayment hasn't helped Ducati in WSBK in recent years. L4 is the way to go :)
 
Im in for the new L4 and will probably do some bike swapping along the way. The only bike that I will not part with is the Paul Smart. I may let the Pani go to make way for the new dirt bike hobby beginning next spring as I just spend more time on the track with the RSV4 and don't ride it much anymore.
 
flobrandx said:
I may let the Pani go to make way for the new dirt bike hobby beginning next spring as I just spend more time on the track with the RSV4 and don't ride it much anymore.
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Haha I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm spending more time with my street bikes and moving to track days and really don't ride dirt anymore. I have a really nice KTM 350 and Yz250 4-strokes for sale if anyone is interested :p
 
rm4two said:
Haha I'm doing the exact opposite. I'm spending more time with my street bikes and moving to track days and really don't ride dirt anymore. I have a really nice KTM 350 and Yz250 4-strokes for sale if anyone is interested :p
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Nice collection of dirt bikes! I'm wanting to move into dirt to spend more time with the family doing motorcycle stuff and I already spend a lot of time at the track with the guys so street riding is loosing out for now. Trying to balance family, work, and motorcycles...:D
 
rm4two said:
I'm sure that's part of it but you simply can't spin a 112mm piston as fast as in IL4 and expect it to be reliable. Increased displayment hasn't helped Ducati in WSBK in recent years. L4 is the way to go :)
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Chaz isn't doing too badly is he?
 
Cosmik de Bris said:
Chaz isn't doing too badly is he?
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He's doing really well and I'm happy about that. However, Ducati's success is more to Chaz's riding ability than the bikes competitiveness. Case in point, outside of Chaz no Ducati finished in the top ten in race 2 of the last round and no Ducati's (again outside of Chaz) finished race 1 at all. No Ducati not ridden by Chaz has won a WSBK race this year. Also, remember they changed the WSBK rules so the bikes are closer to their stock counterparts more than they've ever been, which means IL4's can't make as many engine changes as in previous years. Case in point, look at the WSTK1000 and BSB results for the Panigale this year. Also, we've seen Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki release specialty, limited production models that they intend to go racing with. So how long, before Panigale's are getting smoked again on circuits with long straights?
 
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rm4two said:
He's doing really well and I'm happy about that. However, Ducati's success is more to Chaz's riding ability than the bikes competitiveness. Case in point, outside of Chaz no Ducati finished in the top ten in race 2 of the last round and no Ducati's (again outside of Chaz) finished race 1 at all. No Ducati not ridden by Chaz has won a WSBK race this year. Also, remember they changed the WSBK rules so the bikes are closer to their stock counterparts more than they've ever been, which means IL4's can't make as many engine changes as in previous years. Case in point, look at the WSTK1000 and BSB results for the Panigale this year. Also, we've seen Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki release specialty, limited production models that they intend to go racing with. So how long, before Panigale's are getting smoked again on circuits with long straights?
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This is corny logic. No Ducati finished race 1 because they all crashed out. It has nothing to do with the bike. And Chaz has helped the development of the bike to suit his riding style. The upgrades on the bike has made Chaz more competitive. Also, Tati should have won the title if it wasnt for De Rosa crashing him out two rounds ago. How soon we forget the 1199 won the STK title in 2014.
 
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put Rea and Sykes on the Yamaha or the aprilia or the Bmw and you'd still see the fight for 1,2,3 between Chaz, Jonathan, and Tom. everyone in the paddock knows it - all the commentators and ex racers have all said it .

its a testament to the series too . they've done a perfect job of making the bikes equal
 

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