V2 Reverse GP Shift - parts?

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0260n25

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I am surprised that I cannot find a single person on this planet who has reverse shifted their V2. Can anyone confirm that the stock parts can be flipped to GP shift the V2, and what needs to happen with the quick shifter? I see that the 959 needed a crazy $300 part to use a GP shift pattern. Any help would be great as I hate the regular shift on the V2. I cannot believe V2 owners are not GP shifting this bike, even with the stock parts. I hope someone has done this and can confirm (rather than speculate) what needs to happen.

Also, it appears that you have to support the motor can loosen engine frame bolts just to get the front sprocket off. I presume the same may be true to remove and flip the shift linkage. At a minimum, it looks like you have to pull the clutch slave (maybe that is all).

Thanks,

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Are you dead set on using the stock rearsets? I purchased some Spider Rearsets for GP shift for around $550 and it is well worth the price.
 
mikemaxphoto said:
Are you dead set on using the stock rearsets? I purchased some Spider Rearsets for GP shift for around $550 and it is well worth the price.
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No, I will probably purchase some aftermarket rearsets. However, if I can reverse shift the V2 at no cost (or little cost), then I would like to do so until I figure out what rearsets I want.

Also, I did get the shift linkage (and ultimately the rearset) off by removing the clutch slave. Man, Ducati gave no room on this V2.

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Yeah aftermarket is the way to go! Lots of good choices out there too.

Working on this bike has been a struggle with the tight spaces.. the exhaust install was a fun one LOL.
 
I was able to connect the linkage for GP shift and still keep a normal angle on the gear change lever (what your foot presses to change gears) by adding a short 1-inch extension I took off my XDiavel's loooooong shift rod setup. Now I need to trace the quick shifter wires and see if I need to swap them. Ultimately, the angle is not the best but is required to clear the rearset with the shift rod (connection at the engine is about 10 o'clock instead of 12).

I'll test it out after finding the wires to (possibly) swap. If it works, I'll take pictures for everyone; otherwise, this can just be another failed V2-GP-Shift-With-(almost)Stock-Parts thread, lol.

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YEB said:
Ducati OEM part : 96580241AA

pure-ducati.com

Reverse Gear Change Control Wiring Ducati Panigale (96580241AA)

Reverse Gear Change Control Wiring Ducati Panigale (96580241AA) - Specifically designed to turn the standard gear change control into a reverse one.
pure-ducati.com pure-ducati.com
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I have seen many posts about how this could be accomplished, but I was looking for someone who has actually done this. It is not clear what that 96580241AA part does (is it the correct 3-wire connector or is it the incorrect 2-wire; does it include an arm for the QS...). Thanks, anyways.
 
sorry i don't know .. but have seen a note on an italian site:
The reverse gear selector wiring for Ducati Panigale V2 is designed for use on the track. This Ducati Performance accessory can only be installed exclusively on the stock footrests.
 
I was able to get my 2021 V2 changed to GP / reverse shift with stock parts plus a one-inch extension stolen from my XDiavel. I identified the correct wires to reverse on the QS connector and then reversed them (I have pin extractors, so I just popped them out and reversed them).

I tested this setup and here are my findings:

  • Everything works
  • Downshifts blip correctly and feel good
  • upshifts work correctly (no blip) but have much more of a lag causing the bike to dive (I did not have this issue in the stock position)
  • some upshifts were perfect, but most were not
  • quite a few neutral shifts or false neutrals
I will revert back and probably try an aftermarket QS with the stock rearsets since the stock QS does not appear to like the new position. GP shifting without the QS was not a problem with this setup. I may then purchase aftermarket rearsets as well, but I wanted to let everyone know that it is possible to GP shift the V2 with (almost) stock parts.

The yellow circle in the picture is the XDiavel extension I added. The connector picture shows the stock wire positions. I moved the yellow wire to where the red wire is and the red wire to where the yellow wire was.

PXL_20210510_222726149.jpgPXL_20210511_015134559.jpg

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2021-05-12 06_40_26-V2 Reverse GP Shift - parts_ _ Ducati Forum.png
I would be surprised if this works (fine).
should be 90° as possible.
in case of shift errors this is the first that i change even it is just 1 tooth.
 
chris16 said:
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I would be surprised if this works (fine).
should be 90° as possible.
in case of shift errors this is the first that i change even it is just 1 tooth.
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That will work bitchin for downshifts!

Upshifts not so much...

And I’m not familiar with your models wiring but if it’s like my buddies 959 Corse it’s different than the other Panigale’s. 3 wires yeah but not a simple ground/power/trigger like the older ones. One of the wires has a resistor in it stock. Good luck
 
chris16 said:
View attachment 37339
I would be surprised if this works (fine).
should be 90° as possible.
in case of shift errors this is the first that i change even it is just 1 tooth.
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Thanks for the comment, @chris16. You are correct that the arm should connect near 90 degrees when possible. I was able to move it one tooth closer to the top (closer to 90 degrees), but because of the size of the QS module, wires, and linkage, I could not get it any better than this. The picture angle (camera is to the right of the shifter center) does make it look a bit worse than it is. I did test ride it again yesterday and it does shift without issues if you turn off the QS (not clunky and no false Ns). You have to be more deliberate with your shift, but it works fine. I would not suggest that anyone keep it this way, but it does work.

A different QS and linkage that is thinner may allow for stock rearsets and a 90-degree connection.

Enjoy,

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I trimmed the face of the shift knuckle so that the stock QS fitted inside the swingarm pivot. As Don has mentioned somewhere the turnbuckle eyes are low quality .5mm play at the shift spline end equates to 5mm at the toe piece
 
Who was it that put machinist shim stock around the bolt???

That’s the ticket!!!

Better than green loctite : )
 
Paul G said:
I trimmed the face of the shift knuckle so that the stock QS fitted inside the swingarm pivot. As Don has mentioned somewhere the turnbuckle eyes are low quality .5mm play at the shift spline end equates to 5mm at the toe piece
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Thanks for the idea. I also ground down the shift knuckle and was able to mount mine at a perfect 90-degree angle. Shifting is great and the QS works well (with the normal sloppiness of the stock parts). No false neutrals and no need for the extension now.

Thanks,

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0260n25 said:
I am surprised that I cannot find a single person on this planet who has reverse shifted their V2. Can anyone confirm that the stock parts can be flipped to GP shift the V2, and what needs to happen with the quick shifter? I see that the 959 needed a crazy $300 part to use a GP shift pattern. Any help would be great as I hate the regular shift on the V2. I cannot believe V2 owners are not GP shifting this bike, even with the stock parts. I hope someone has done this and can confirm (rather than speculate) what needs to happen.

Also, it appears that you have to support the motor can loosen engine frame bolts just to get the front sprocket off. I presume the same may be true to remove and flip the shift linkage. At a minimum, it looks like you have to pull the clutch slave (maybe that is all).

Thanks,

-0260
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Sure you can conver from reverse shift to GP shift it will just requires some tool needed to be converted and i believe after the conversion you should get a better performance of your V2.
 

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