V4 owners - 15w50 oil reports with testing - Motul 300v / Redline Power Sports / Motul 7100 - Part 1

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This should be a decent oil, but not quite as good as some others. I don’t like it when oil companies give uninformed consumers useless information under the guise of appearing to be important. It does have some ester and they say the same things every other oil says. The Flash Point is the only useful clue, and it’s not good. The Flash Point is only normal for most average oils. Like I’ve said before, the important stuff is VI, NOACK, ZDDP / zinc, and HTHS. If the oil has exceptional numbers in those categories, they’ll shout it from the rooftops. Since they say very little and the Flash Point is mediocre, you can buy better oil for the same price.
Since the engine is new, your main concern should be putting real Break-in oil in the engine and doing the proper procedure. This has been discussed in other threads. Your engine has a cartridge oil filter. I would immediately epoxy the biggest super magnet I could onto the cover. That will pull out the iron particles smaller than 30 microns that the filter can’t stop. Order extra oil filters and change the oil and filter at 100 miles, 300 miles, and 600 miles. Don’t forget to clean the iron dust off the inside of the oil filter cover. It will look similar to the metal on the drain plug magnet. If you really want to help your engine, replace the Ducati magnetic drain plug with a higher quality more powerful magnet. If you’re really anal, you can remove the valve covers and put super magnets near the lobes of the camshafts. They make the magnets in the shape of a washer. Find a spot that doesn’t interfere with any sensor or has a clearance problem. You’ll probably need a 5mm longer bolt for a 5mm magnetic washer. You should only do this if you know what you’re doing. The biggest problem today seems to be with high camshaft wear. A magnet near the cam lobes will help keep the oil at the lobes as pure as possible. Now you’re ready to go. If you don’t know how, learn how to change your own oil and filter. The Ducati oil filter is as good as you’ll get. Never use one of those stainless steel reusable oil filters you see advertised.
I've seen two valvetrains thus far and I'm not seeing any wear really. They have hardened the rocker faces to a level that the cams must be sacrificial to the rockers in the V4's. I'd like to use alnico magnets for head bolt washers on these but since they're sintered I don't think they're up to the task. They're pumping a lot of oil into the heads and actively scavenging but I bet there's at a minimum of half a liter in each head all the time based on the change in the oil level as the heads drain down after you shut them off. I actually have hopes for the valvetrain life on these. That being said I'd be keeping the clearances within the factory assembly specs and ignoring their operating specs. My real concern on these is rod bearing related issues as the motors loosen up with age. They've revved the oil pump four times as near as i can tell.
 
I've seen the gold flake thing show up from several bikes. I don't think there is any copper in the clutch plates (not that I can see on the clutch that came with the motor I bought 14K miles). They do have some sort of gold/copper coating on the friction plates which you can see between the friction pads. Some of that may shed for a while. I'm not seeing it in my bike BTW. These will shed the edges of the various gears in the engine particularly the gearbox for probably 15K miles. I see no source of copper inside the engines except for backings of the rod and main bearings. So, i agree watch that copper number.
I be wrong. I forgot about the rod small end bushes, you'll see some copper from these as they burnish in. And maybe lead depending on the alloy. Shouldn't be much though.
 
I be wrong. I forgot about the rod small end bushes, you'll see some copper from these as they burnish in. And maybe lead depending on the alloy. Shouldn't be much though.
perhaps the 1st owner of this bike never pushed hard...only 4k miles when i purchased and the dealership had records of all the times it was in the shop...first service around 700mi, new tires at 3000mi, two oil changes by dealership....

Now that ive got it and actually pushing...perhaps why i'm seeing some ware? in any event, will sample new oil again after this weekends 300mi loop!

Jag
 

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