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jmhamilton68 said:
But doesn’t the R already have the Ohlins stuff you would buy on the aftermarket?
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Not at all, actually. The OEM rear shock is the old ttx36 MkII, the current ttx is actually the ttx-36 GPIII (preceded by the GPI then GPII) or you can go all out on the RSP-40. The latest with forks are actually the spring pressurized forks or cartridges out now -reference WSBK, moto2, MotoAmerica, etc... but dont take my word for it, talk to the pro suspension guys. Top end is the RVP-25 forks or you can bridge the gap and get the FKR cartridges for a lot less. OEM's are making a price point, even on the R for the WSBK price cap, which is why the RS exists.
 
DUDE just buy your FKR forks already, as you have already convinced yourself you need them but somehow or for some reason you need approval, you are so convinced you defend your standpoint through insulting anyone that questions why you need to upgrade beyond your OEM equipment. Carry on as this is becoming entertaining to see your need to upgrade through your already convinced stance.
 
I'm thinking, with these suspension upgrades (better than R version), it may just be better to buy 20 base model and do the upgrades yourself?

Ok, no dry clutch and no R engine (do we really use full potential of V4 anyway on track?). R dont come with upgraded exhaust or rearsets like the base model. What else R have now other than what I mentioned before? oh wheels are lighter.

Frame is same, fairings are same now.
 
1299rFE said:
DUDE just buy your FKR forks already, as you have already convinced yourself you need them but somehow or for some reason you need approval, you are so convinced you defend your standpoint through insulting anyone that questions why you need to upgrade beyond your OEM equipment. Carry on as this is becoming entertaining to see your need to upgrade through your already convinced stance.
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Everyone else can stay on topic, get a life, I read your post about how other people wreck you out and you want to fight them- explains it all. Clueless trolling in 3.....2.....1......
 
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Wait hold on psycho super troller, I never said i went looking for a fight, I was encouraged to actually do so by an employee of the company renting the track. I simply sought him out to see why he didn't have the human decency to see if someone they wrecked at 90+ MPH would not apologize. Did the thought cross my mind, certainly I think that is a natural reaction, no? Did I approach him in an intimidating manor, no. I totally see you have an increasing temper and an inability to hold a conversation which you don't agree with or can see an opposing view. Looks like you are an internet tough guy. I have been nothing but a gentleman here. I should have told you off several times by now. I am hoping you would come to your senses and see someone is only questioning your choice, its a simple question yet you cant answer it, all you want is a support team to confirm your already made up mind. Yet, you cant restrain yourself from clambering on in a internet tough guy manor. IF that post explains it all, you should see i am a very level headed person. A non level headed person would have gone there and beat the man. So THANK YOU, yes my actions do explain me.
 
I'll start by saying I haven't tried the FKR cartridge yet! But, I have spoken with an Ohlins technician about them and the difference on the NPX fork.
The damping is essentially the same, but they use a spring to pressurise the fork oil, rather than gas.
The reason for this is for 'feel'.
I have the Bitubo gas forks on my BMW race bike, and they feel very similar to the NPX gas fork. Which is to say, they feel vague and lacking in feel unless really loaded up, like in fairly extreme trail braking.
When I tried a set of K-Tech cartridges (non gas) on my BMW, they had a lot more feel, which gives confidence.

So, my two cents worth, give them a go and let us know how you get along!

In the meantime, try not to get in any more arguments online
 
RickD996 said:
I'll start by saying I haven't tried the FKR cartridge yet! But, I have spoken with an Ohlins technician about them and the difference on the NPX fork.
The damping is essentially the same, but they use a spring to pressurise the fork oil, rather than gas.
The reason for this is for 'feel'.
I have the Bitubo gas forks on my BMW race bike, and they feel very similar to the NPX gas fork. Which is to say, they feel vague and lacking in feel unless really loaded up, like in fairly extreme trail braking.
When I tried a set of K-Tech cartridges (non gas) on my BMW, they had a lot more feel, which gives confidence.

So, my two cents worth, give them a go and let us know how you get along!

In the meantime, try not to get in any more arguments online
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Yeah, that's what all the suspension guys were saying as well, in addition to avoiding the issues of the gas leaking. Thanks for the feedback on them.
 
Keith, I’ll be waiting for your feedback since I’m interested in these inserts as well.
 
folks,
recently some members have come here to be hateful, reminding me of people suffering hardcore from TDS. In the video below, check out the mods they made to the forks and everything else and feel free to let your hate rage. Or cut my dick off bc how dare I post here on the DucForum

V4R appears around 2:45
 
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I've just upgraded my V4R suspension to Mupo.

The forks are night and day better. The CSP fork internals are a 'through rod' design, which you'll start to see in the other manufacturers soon. K-Tech offer their through rod design forks to BSB teams, but only on lease atm. They are the next great thing.

What makes them so much better, from my opinion, is the feel. Even at low speeds on track, they inspire confidence in the front of the bike, giving plenty of positive feedback, whilst still being smooth. The are like the Goldilocks of fork internals. Not ironing out a surface and being too smooth like gas, but not being harsh and giving too much feedback like the spring forks.

They are excellent, and I would 100% recommend them above Ohlins, K-Tech or Bitubo.

Michelle Pirro uses Mupo in the Italian championship on the Barni Ducati Team bike, which won the championship.

Worth a look!
 
Only way to prove or not prove modding a already expensive V4R suspension is a blind test on the same day, make it stock and ride it.. then go away and don’t see it, then come back and ride the same road or track and give feedback...but you won’t know if it’s been modded or not. I’d like to see the 44teeth guys do this or perhaps a Brit bike magazine, as American ones are terrible.
 
DucatiKev said:
Sponsorship??? Or just the pursuit of excellence?
Post a pic at your convenience, please! All we ever get to see is pix of stock bikes
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Sponsorship?

The stock forks are pretty good, I managed to get a good setup and 'feel' with them. But spring changes were quite annoying. I considered the options, Bitubo being my first preference. But, no one was really forthcoming with setup data for their products on the V4R. Mupo, had everything available, shock length, wheelbase, front ride height etc etc. At least the settings would be a good starting point. So, I elected to give the Mupo a try, and people I know that have tried Mupo have both been very happy.
I'm still working on setup, trying my setup first, before trying the Mupo settings, but due to electrical gremlins, I've managed four laps across two trackdays. So, haven't really been able to get a good feel for the shock yet, but the forks are very convincing. And, the spring changes are as you would expect for a race fork, straightforward.
 

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