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Greetings my fellow motorists,

i'm in for a new motorcyle and have to decide between a Ducati Panigale V2 (176 kg dry weight) and a MV Agusta F3 800 RC (165 kg dry weight).

Does anyone have expierience with weight reduction on an V2 and can tell me how much weight reduction could be done on a V2?
 
Exhaust and wheels are going to probably be the top things for weight savings. I think from stock wheels to marchesini mag wheels you loose around 6-7lbs. The stock exhaust weighs a bit too, I just finished swapping my stock to a SBK slip-on and it saved a decent chunk (sorry didn't weigh it out).
 
As others have said, it starts cheap then gets expensive. Front and rear subframes, exhaust, wheels. After that it starts getting tricky.
 
I have had both an F3 800 and currently have a V2.
Riding them, you can't really tell any difference in weights.
The V2 has a better sound from stock but they are both excellent bikes.
I'd say that the hardware and finish is slightly better quality on the Ducati - the paint is thicker and the plastics are stronger.
The big plus for me though was the availability of parts - huge delays (for me at least) getting MV parts.
Had the MV for 4 years and put over 20,000 miles on her.
Had the V2 for 1 season so far and put 4,000 miles on her.
For what it is worth though, the Akra exhaust saves you a lot of weight as well as giving you a hefty increase in power.
 

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IMHO, gyroscopic weight reduction is more important than any other weight reduction.
The V2 has heavy cast wheels. I'd change those for BST CF ones.
I think this is where you're going to get the best bang for your bucks.
 
I had a 959 and the stock wheels were boat anchors BST's saved over 12 lbs, the pipe as stated and your subframe is steel and an aluminum 1299 oem or aftermarket will save at least 5 lbs and a lithium battery is a help as well.
The 1299 also has a aluminum gas tank yours is steel, these are the first area's I would start.
 
Watch a Jaret Campisi video on his V2 build series on YouTube. He has reduced the stock weight by approximately 40 lbs to date. It is costing him over half the price of the V2 to eliminate that weight. Replacing the stock exhaust with the Akrapovic was the single most weight reduction.
 
You can get to 380 in race trim. around or just under 400 most likely in street trim. Its prolly no different form the F3 in that respect. F3 is way down on torque, but to me when you get up close to MVs is the finish - they look amazing form 10 feet. You sit on it and take in the cast top triple and other cost cutters and its the inferior bike. Jarret Campisi is a clown and degrades his girlfriend on camera for likes/subs/youtube $.
 
Replaced the exhaust with a slip on (SBK exhaust- $550 USD) and the stock servo with healtTech servo eliminator($80)

added commander V and threw her on the dyno

dropped 14lbs
Hp gains +10%
Total cost $1500ish - parts, labor, dyno.
 
@7th Gear
I think the OP's topic is nebulous.
There's weigh reduction and there's weight reduction for the best performance enhancement and then there's performance enhancement without weight reduction.
While a full Akra will indeed reduce weight, it adds very little, if any additional power at the top of the power band which is where you're living on the track.
The gains are in the mid-range. This is well documented. An Akra in itself will do very little to reduce your lap-time.
 
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If you want to reduce your lap time get an SV 650 and practice, practice practice so much cheaper when you throw it down the road as you must to find the limit. Reducing weight is enjoyable and some of the threads have people spending almost the purchase price of the bike chasing grams but a much easier way is pretending that you were going to buy that brand X 1000 that weighed 200kg but you got the v2 instead saving much weight in the process.
 
^^^ great point, the cheapest solution is fitness and diet. Something I am going to try and really get behind ahead of this next season
 
Paul G said:
If you want to reduce your lap time get an SV 650 and practice, practice practice so much cheaper when you throw it down the road as you must to find the limit. Reducing weight is enjoyable and some of the threads have people spending almost the purchase price of the bike chasing grams but a much easier way is pretending that you were going to buy that brand X 1000 that weighed 200kg but you got the v2 instead saving much weight in the process.
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also keep in mind that ducati owners are not the type that say I want together better on the track so I am gonna get a SV put my head down and rip laps all summer. I would put myself in that category, I got into the track because of the bike - I am passionate about these bikes and this brand otherwise I would be on a R1 or ZX
 
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also keep in mind that ducati owners are not the type that say I want together better on the track so I am gonna get a SV put my head down and rip laps all summer. I would put myself in that category, I got into the track because of the bike - I am passionate about these bikes and this brand otherwise I would be on a R1 or ZX
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This is what I use my 60bhp RVF for. :)
 

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Thanks to all of you for your answers.

The weight reduction would be just for the enhancement of riding fun.

I just now have discovert (the street legal weight is hidden at the website for germany) that the 165 kg of dry weight of the F3 800 RC can only be realised with the optional racing kit and I can't drive that at the streets.
Without the racing kit it got a dry weight of 173 kg and the V2 a dry weight of 176 kg. So the difference isn't that big anymore.
 

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