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centeroff said:
After decades of wanting a Ducati Superbike I finally broke down and bought one, I was very disappointed to find the new Panigale had a WET CLUTCH! and no more trellis frame, I bought it anyway because it was a bucket list deal, love the bike, but it doesn't feel like I have a real Ducati. I read all the ........ about less rotating mass, extra horsepower, blah,blah,blah. Bottom line is it's cheaper to build a wet clutch, just like the new frameless design is cheaper to build than a real tube chassis.
A wet clutch is inferior, it puts trash in the oil, it heats up the oil, it also comprimises the oil you can use in the engine, and is much harder to service.
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You bought the wrong bike. You should have gotten an 1198SP.

Fact is, the Panigale is better PERFORMING in every possible aspect over the 1198. A "real" Ducati used to involve a fair amount of physical and financial suffering. I don't miss it, but maybe you need it for whatever.
 
The panigale is amazing no question
I just miss the tradition of the dry clutch
It was a signature part of Ducati lore

I mean what's next no desmo valves ?

Where does tradition and identity out weigh innovation?
 
again I was a fan of the dry clutch, but ;

(in terms of performance) the desmodromic valving is far more relevant today than it was twenty years ago.

the dry clutch - not so much .

In fact I would venture a guess that the japanese are a little jealous .

having desmo valves on a street bike is as close to motogp / formula one technology as 99.99% of the entire world population will ever come.
we take it for granted but the reality is it functions like the pneumatic valving of F1 and it is highly unlikely you will ever see this tech on the street.
Its ironic that this technology has been maligned so much over the years.
 
kismetcapitan said:
You bought the wrong bike. You should have gotten an 1198SP.

Fact is, the Panigale is better PERFORMING in every possible aspect over the 1198. A "real" Ducati used to involve a fair amount of physical and financial suffering. I don't miss it, but maybe you need it for whatever.
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u ever try to steer the 1*98 bike? it was a wretched turning bike whereas the Pani is exceptionally easy to flick and hold the line w/....

& seriously, if u can afford a 30k bike and 3500 exhaust then surely if u so want the dry clutch u can drop another 3k on that; ie stop whining...
 
Charleston 1199 said:
The panigale is amazing no question
I just miss the tradition of the dry clutch
It was a signature part of Ducati lore

I mean what's next no desmo valves ?

Where does tradition and identity out weigh innovation?
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Apparently they are going to do away with the wheels next, another signature Ducati piece. :D
 
VAST said:
u ever try to steer the 1*98 bike? it was a wretched turning bike whereas the Pani is exceptionally easy to flick and hold the line w/....
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I don't find my 1098R any heavier handling than my '15R. Neither are professionally set up, just me tweaking a couple of clicks here
and there over track days, until the tyre wear is decent and the bikes don't scare the .... out of me too often.
Biggest differences are the motor delivery and the ass saving electronics on the Pani.
 
990Glen said:
I don't find my 1098R any heavier handling than my '15R. Neither are professionally set up, just me tweaking a couple of clicks here
and there over track days, until the tyre wear is decent and the bikes don't scare the .... out of me too often.
Biggest differences are the motor delivery and the ass saving electronics on the Pani.
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if u cant tell the difference steering-wise, then u r not riding both bikes and u have no idea what u r doing..

the 1*98 bikes were garbage w/ a crazy engine - i hated my tricolore and when i got on the pani it just reconfirmed what a pos the previous gen was/is.
 
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this entire thread is stupid beyond belief.

- Ducati uses wet clutches on all of their STREET bikes now. And they're about as good as it gets with clutch performance.
- how often does a modern MotoGP rider use the clutch during a race? For many, they use it ONCE. Hell, I only use my clutch when I leave my garage and at stoplights, and I don't even have a seamless transmission. So tell me again why a clutch optimized for launching off the start line and nothing else is "better" for a street-legal street-ridden superbike? Well, maybe you're going to track your bike. How many WSBK bikes use dry clutches again?
 
I rode the 1098R once. Savage power.

No denying the Panigale is an infinitely more agile platform though...
 
DynastySS said:
I rode the 1098R once. Savage power.

No denying the Panigale is an infinitely more agile platform though...
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less horsepower delivered poorly and the worst handling bike of that production year among similar displacement superbikes.

anyone that compares the 1*98's handling to a pani and thinks they are similar should really not be riding superbikes....
 
I had a 848
I thought it was nimble but I agree the panigale is way way better
I also have zero clue how I put this on the Sl forum May have had to much to drink who knows

I guess the point was to question the balance of Ducati identity over progress and innovation, I know the panigale is the quint essential of Ducati innovation but occasionally I miss some of the old quirks of previous Ducati superbikes.

And yes I know why the bike was made the way it was to win world championships go faster than the competition
 
Charleston 1199 said:
I had a 848
I thought it was nimble but I agree the panigale is way way better
I also have zero clue how I put this on the Sl forum May have had to much to drink who knows

I guess the point was to question the balance of Ducati identity over progress and innovation, I know the panigale is the quint essential of Ducati innovation but occasionally I miss some of the old quirks of previous Ducati superbikes.

And yes I know why the bike was made the way it was to win world championships go faster than the competition
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Historically the first Ducati superbikes had wet clutches . I think the dry clutch was just a glitch a little bit like pop up headlights in a car .
 

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