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I know of dealerships that have dropped Aprilia and MV Agusta for exactly that reason. They couldn't afford the customer's bikes taking up space in the shop for months while they awaited parts. I have had no issue obtaining Ducati parts when needed in a timely manner, and quite pleasantly surprised at how reasonable the costs were, usually. They've also done warranty work that I didn't even know I needed until they were into something with no hassle.
 
what are you getting into?? Hell my friend, hell. BUT YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE IT.

I bought my base in early 1012 at GP motorcycles. I went through all sort of issues probably for being among the the earliest bikes out there (I believe most of those issues have been worked out by now by ducati, probably thanks to guinea pigs like me ;). Both the dealer and DNA have been very responsive, to the point that I recently got a 2014 engine and an additional 3 years of Ducati full warranty for the trouble.
 
sean999r said:
Really now, I work with the types you were describing as Ducati owners & enthusiasts, and guess what they all love HD's, certainly would not be seen dead in good car like a Camry
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Don't think you get it. . Using the term 'jap' is a highly offensive/derogatory term. Since you meant it as a derogatory brand of bike, adding a rascist term to it is ignorant to say the least.
 
DuckforDinner said:
Hi All,

I've been riding for 21-yrs (still under 40), so you do the math. In any event, I'm now finding myself visiting every Ducati dealership in the area looking at, drooling at, setting aside funds for, a new '14 1199s/r.

Currently, I own several bikes, but the one most pertinent to this discussion and most comparable to the 1199, is my BMW S1000RR, which I've owned and ridden without issue.

You can probably already tell where this thread is going. First off, I have zero expectation of purchasing a Ducati that will be 100% issue free. That's fine and I realize there is give and take with Ducks. I don't think it's possible for a bike that is quite this exotic, to be completely trouble free all of the time.

Having said that, the shear number of complaints, warranty issues, and the "seemingly" unsatisfied results, more than a few owners are writing about (notice I did not write "complaining about"), does have me questioning Ducati's commitment to the loyalty and longterm satisfaction of its customers.

No matter the response to this thread, this will be the month of the 1199 (for me, that is), as I intend to purchase this week.

But, is there a level of dissatisfaction amongst the 1199 owners that make up this forum? That is, would you prefer Ducati be more receptive to your complaints or is my analysis incorrect?

I plan to buy from Ducati of Newport Beach or GP Cycles in San Diego, which both have multiple Base, S, and R models in stock.

Any advice, thoughts, complaints, praise, and/or other comments would be greatly appreciated and by no means is this a "troll" thread. Rather, I just want to make sure I'm an informed buyer and I have realistic expectations about my upcoming purchase.

Thanks all- I'll post photos of the new ride when possible.

Cheers and ride safe!
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I have owned the Panigale R, S and s1000rr simultaneously at one point. My advice is if you can swing it get the R rather than get the S and get a full exhaust later on. there is a noticeable difference between the two in terms of acceleration, with track times, due to my limited skill the R is faster by little over a a second (2minutees and 11sceconds ). In the right hands I am sure it can do more.

a stock s1000rr will trump either bikes in the strait line . however in the track it is different. When I ride in The Panigale, with all the effort I put in and the enjoyment I experience in the track I am sure that I am 3-4 seconds faster with the BMW but when I look at the records, a bit more relaxed ride in the s1000rr produces a faster laptime by 2.5 seconds. I do not understand it because I do not put much effort while ridding it. but If I put more effort, lap time improves only by a little bit.

for the looks, I think I am one of the few who thinks the s1000rr is gorgeous. I love the assymetrical headlights. the only thing that I find ugly is the long exhaust, it looks like a late 90's bike.

My issues with the three bikes are minor.

with the S, the left turn signal will not operate if the engine is running hot

with the SKrr I had problems starting it, turned out to be a loose connection in the handle bar.



Where are the three bikes now? Sold it and paid for the SL coming in 6 weeks time.
 
1199R I've noticed photo differences which I believe maybe are 13 v 14 changes, my question relates the the rear cylinder on the right hand side, some have the Cyl head exposed while other pics show it cover in a plastic shield.

Question
1. is this cover easily removed to expose the rear Cyl' head, or is ia different cover piece required
I also do not like the large rear exhaust cover, yes I know they redesigned due to heat complaints, think an Akrapovic Evo Race Sys' may be on my Parts List

Thanks Desmo System for your comments & side by side comparisons
 
Anthem = PC word police.

Jeez.

What about "Jew""¦Or would it make you feel more warm and fuzzy to have "Jewish""¦(Despite the fact persons of Jewish origin regularly refer to themselves as Jew)

P.S"¦.Dont YOU forget, Anthem, that you may not use the words "North Korea" to describe the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea""¦They took offense to that in 2003.

But you CAN feel free to use
Afroasian
Amerasian
Amerindian
Anglo (approved in Cali too)
Caucasian (Only allowed when describing a white inmate)
Eurasian

:)

NOLA"¦

And P.S. I think Huffington Post just updated their Twitter feed. Go check.
 
NOLA said:
Anthem = PC word police.

What about "Jew""¦Or would it make you feel more warm and fuzzy to have "Jewish""¦(Despite the fact persons of Jewish origin regularly refer to themselves as Jew)
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That would essentially mean "n*****" is ok, because persons of African American descent regularly refer to themselves as that. . I think we've all learned that just because their own race refers to themselves that way doesn't mean its ok to do so. .

the issue here I had with that previous comment was that it was begrudging japanese bikes with a derogatory japanese term on top of that. I am not japanese, but the japanese friends I do have take that term quite offensively.

Since the poster seems to be of UK descent - an equivalent term would have been if he said "paki" for southeastern asian descendents and how they take offense to that if he isn't familiar with "jap" as a derogatory term.

we're way off track here, but I don't think we should propagate racist terms in our forum debates.
 
To OP, I live in San Diego and would never again buy a bike in this town. When I bought Newport Ducati was not budging much on price as they move bikes pretty quick. Shoot an email to the internet manager at Del Amo Motorsports...yeah its a little in the hood but they gave me an awesome price on a bike.

GP would rather keep a bike on the floor than budge a little on price, not to mention their service dept is complete garbage. Moto Forza might be better but they are owned by the same people.

Just my 2 cents. GP "used" to be the place to buy Italian bikes down this way but things have changed. Everyone has different experiences with different dealers, but I am not here to make friends with them. I just need them to do their job.
 
If you read the forums, you freak out buying every bike.
I had small recal issues in many bikes I bought new (recently, Monster 1100 EVO had fuel line and wheel recall, and HD Nighster had VR recall), and interestingly enough, the worst was in my old Suzuki Bandit 1200 (bad top end leak due to faulty gaskets, which needed the whole engine to be tore down).
Go ahead and get the Pani. Other bikes hand over grins, with the Pani you get full blown laughs!



- Hotice, which you can call ... without him getting his panties in a wad :D
 
My bike has been trouble free, I had to adjust the suspension to suit me, but they come with adjustable suspension for just that reason, I live out in the sticks, so when I go for a ride I'm not farting around in traffic, I'm using it like it was intended to be used, breaking the law for the duration of my ride. No bike I've ever owned has given me this much pleasure just owning it, let alone getting to beat on it. They were built to run hard and put up wet.
 
centeroff said:
Your on the wrong forum. This is about Ducati 1199's, not commie/liberal politcorrect speech correcton. You need to go to the Prius with Obama bumper stickers forum.
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really??? you sure about that? because this forum is full of spell police. there is more school teachers here than ducati fan boy.
 
So I'm supposed to take offense every time someone's call be Brit or Limey


Please let's get back on the " Subject "

I have placed a deposit on an R, after some shopping around CO WA OR,
taking into account what was available I have ended up placing the sale with Moto Corsa
Portland, It was the best over the ph out the door quote I received, and looks as though they have a great reputation, driving out to collect & ride 5-600 miles, return a get 1st service done before heading for home. 11 days left, I can't wait
 
DuckforDinner said:
Hi All,

I've been riding for 21-yrs (still under 40), so you do the math. In any event, I'm now finding myself visiting every Ducati dealership in the area looking at, drooling at, setting aside funds for, a new '14 1199s/r.

Currently, I own several bikes, but the one most pertinent to this discussion and most comparable to the 1199, is my BMW S1000RR, which I've owned and ridden without issue.

You can probably already tell where this thread is going. First off, I have zero expectation of purchasing a Ducati that will be 100% issue free. That's fine and I realize there is give and take with Ducks. I don't think it's possible for a bike that is quite this exotic, to be completely trouble free all of the time.

Having said that, the shear number of complaints, warranty issues, and the "seemingly" unsatisfied results, more than a few owners are writing about (notice I did not write "complaining about"), does have me questioning Ducati's commitment to the loyalty and longterm satisfaction of its customers.

No matter the response to this thread, this will be the month of the 1199 (for me, that is), as I intend to purchase this week.

But, is there a level of dissatisfaction amongst the 1199 owners that make up this forum? That is, would you prefer Ducati be more receptive to your complaints or is my analysis incorrect?

I plan to buy from Ducati of Newport Beach or GP Cycles in San Diego, which both have multiple Base, S, and R models in stock.

Any advice, thoughts, complaints, praise, and/or other comments would be greatly appreciated and by no means is this a "troll" thread. Rather, I just want to make sure I'm an informed buyer and I have realistic expectations about my upcoming purchase.

Thanks all- I'll post photos of the new ride when possible.

Cheers and ride safe!
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Have you considered SouthBay Motorsports in Chula Vista?
 
DuckforDinner said:
Hi All,

Having said that, the shear number of complaints, warranty issues, and the "seemingly" unsatisfied results, more than a few owners are writing about (notice I did not write "complaining about"), does have me questioning Ducati's commitment to the loyalty and longterm satisfaction of its customers.
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Stop paying attention to self-indulgent whiners with unrealistic expectations.
If, as you claim, you've been riding for 20+ years and are competent with and have access to a good/complete set of metric tools *and* have a mindset that prefers to analyze and fix problems rather than go whining about it on some forum *well then*...
You shouldn't have much of a problem. :)

Sure, there are a few people who have had genuine issues with them (just like any other mechanical device - things break). But most of what you'll read are tantrums pitched by kiddies too lazy and self-indulgent to bother spending the time it takes to actually learn something about what they've just dropped $25k on.

I've owned/ridden/raced Ducati's for 25 years. And I've never had reason to question Ducati's commitment. They're unique machines. They're not for everyone.
 
Good post. We beat the crap out of these machines, and they are designed at the ragged edge of performance. I am impressed at how reliable they are. We've gotten really, really spoiled, having turn-key 200 mph performance that you can go on a milk run with too. People forget the bad old days of completing a 30 mph journey being an adventure , and just assuming you were going to be stopping to fix oil leaks, timing, points, flats, broken chains and other crap, etc.

If you want stone reliable, don't buy the highest performance thing out there. That's why they market detuned versions of 5-year-old bikes; all the kinks are ironed out, and then they've further backed them off from their full capability to make sure they'll live without being worked on.

It also points to an entitlement attitude that seems to pervade society now. I look at high performance things I buy as me deciding to participate with people that are doing something cool, and I'm willing to throw in my lump to help learn and make the technology better. If you don't have this attitude, high performance is not your realm, and you will be chronically unsatisfied. If you are not a gearhead and interested in picking things apart when they need it, or even when they don't, take up golf...
 
tcelano said:
Good post. We beat the crap out of these machines, and they are designed at the ragged edge of performance. I am impressed at how reliable they are. We've gotten really, really spoiled, having turn-key 200 mph performance that you can go on a milk run with too. People forget the bad old days of completing a 30 mph journey being an adventure , and just assuming you were going to be stopping to fix oil leaks, timing, points, flats, broken chains and other crap, etc.

If you want stone reliable, don't buy the highest performance thing out there. That's why they market detuned versions of 5-year-old bikes; all the kinks are ironed out, and then they've further backed them off from their full capability to make sure they'll live without being worked on.

It also points to an entitlement attitude that seems to pervade society now. I look at high performance things I buy as me deciding to participate with people that are doing something cool, and I'm willing to throw in my lump to help learn and make the technology better. If you don't have this attitude, high performance is not your realm, and you will be chronically unsatisfied. If you are not a gearhead and interested in picking things apart when they need it, or even when they don't, take up golf...
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I remember rebuilding after every to every other race, trying to stay ahead of the next guy.


Love hopping on this bike for a milk run lol .
 
I know mine gets abused. 4500 miles and on its fourth set of tires....but still never been stranded or terribly worried about anything. I have had the recall campaign changes done, and had one clutch master replaced, but all told I'm tickled shitless compared to any other bike I've bought new.

At least it hasn't eaten second gear twice like my last Yamaha!
 
Just bought my 14 Panigale S from Newport Beach. Second bike from them and first duc. I like the staff there and service has always been pretty reasonable. Loving the S also by the way. Best bike I've ever owned.
 

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