What fits Ducati 899 from the 1199?

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I found that the parts diagram is up in the Ducati DCS system now for the 899, so I've started researching which parts from an 1199 will fit over to the 899 to plan my track bike conversion 899 project. So far I've found these items will bolt right over:

Rearsets
Seats
Clip-Ons (Same as S/R model 1199, 53mm)
Front axle sliders
Engine case sliders
Front fender
Sprocket cover
Bodywork (Same as Standard 1199 model w/non-LED headlight)
Triple-Clamps (Same as S/R model 1199)
Both Left/Right race switches
Bar Ends
Brake/Clutch Levers

I'm HOPING the rear suspension parts will bolt over, but not sure on that until we get a bike here to test-fit. When I saw the bike at the dealer show I tried to use the patented stretched-finger-measuring-gauge to check the rear linkage bolt spacing between the 899 and 1199, and it "looked" the same.

Let me know if you guys have other questions about fitment and I'll see if I can look it up for you.
 
XIXCIX said:
Will I be able to fit an 1199 side fairing to my 899? ;)
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Ah geeze.....and swap out the swing arm right?:rolleyes:lol


But, did read the 899 seat is redesigned and belive it has the same cover as the R. Wonder if this will be a good upgrade to the oem 1199 seat.
 
Thanks! The 899 seat looks like a potential good bet for road use on the 1199. I'm also wondering if the steeper head angle can be gotten on the 1199 by substituting the 899 steering head insert.
 
Cobra700 said:
Ah geeze.....and swap out the swing arm right?:rolleyes:lol
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Looked to me like the 1199 and the 899 had the same shock, so I overlayed a pic of both and it appears that you could, in fact, swap the just the shock, or the shock, linkage and P/F bracket thing from the 1199 right onto the 899.

 
Steve B said:
Thanks! The 899 seat looks like a potential good bet for road use on the 1199. I'm also wondering if the steeper head angle can be gotten on the 1199 by substituting the 899 steering head insert.
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I'd be interested in the reduced rake and trail of the 899. assuming it could be retrofitted to the 1199. Is it an insert or a feature of the air box casting? I think the 1199 steering would benefit from being a bit sharper.
 
PaddockStand said:
I'd be interested in the reduced rake and trail of the 899. assuming it could be retrofitted to the 1199. Is it an insert or a feature of the air box casting? I think the 1199 steering would benefit from being a bit sharper.
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It's an insert, part #756.1.014.2AA on the 1199. Haven't seen any parts manuals for the 899 yet and don't know if the inserts are interchangeable or even if that's where the sharper front end numbers come from, but it looks the most likely candidate.
 
alternative to 899

If I already own an 1199, but want an 899, could I do the following and achieve a similar result?

1. Duct tape of one of the cylinders
2. Plug up one of the headers
3. Seal one of the exhaust cans
4. Go back to the 2012 ECU map

Then I get to keep the single-sided swingarm, TFT dash, and Ohlin shocks.:p




Sorry guys, couldn't resist.:D
 
A local dealer converted the rear Ohlins MKI that comes stock on the 1199S to be manual adjusting and they did it for an 899. Fits perfectly...

You can also take the right clutch side cover off the 899 and replace with the two piece version on the 1199. Helps in replacing or servicing the clutch...

Looking at the tank as there are some differences mostly in the way it is mounted. The subframe on the 899 appears to be lighter also... no weights taken yet with stripped down 1199 sub.
 
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Steve B said:
It's an insert, part #756.1.014.2AA on the 1199. Haven't seen any parts manuals for the 899 yet and don't know if the inserts are interchangeable or even if that's where the sharper front end numbers come from, but it looks the most likely candidate.
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Will ask my dealer for the 899 part number and cost.
 
rocdoc said:
If I already own an 1199, but want an 899, could I do the following and achieve a similar result?

1. Duct tape of one of the cylinders
2. Plug up one of the headers
3. Seal one of the exhaust cans
4. Go back to the 2012 ECU map

Then I get to keep the single-sided swingarm, TFT dash, and Ohlin shocks.:p




Sorry guys, couldn't resist.:D
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I think that will get you a 399 :p
 
jarelj said:
I found that the parts diagram is up in the Ducati DCS system now for the 899, so I've started researching which parts from an 1199 will fit over to the 899 to plan my track bike conversion 899 project. So far I've found these items will bolt right over:

Rearsets
Seats
Clip-Ons (Same as S/R model 1199, 53mm)
Front axle sliders
Engine case sliders
Front fender
Sprocket cover
Bodywork (Same as Standard 1199 model w/non-LED headlight)
Triple-Clamps (Same as S/R model 1199)
Both Left/Right race switches
Bar Ends
Brake/Clutch Levers

I'm HOPING the rear suspension parts will bolt over, but not sure on that until we get a bike here to test-fit. When I saw the bike at the dealer show I tried to use the patented stretched-finger-measuring-gauge to check the rear linkage bolt spacing between the 899 and 1199, and it "looked" the same.

Let me know if you guys have other questions about fitment and I'll see if I can look it up for you.
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Jarel,

When you get some time on the 899 would you mind writing a little review of the bike and how it compares to the 1199.

cheers
 
My 899 just arrived yesterday, so we'll get started tearing it down and answering some of these questions shortly. Up first is fitting the F/P adjustable rear linkage from the 1199 over to the 899, I'm pretty sure it will bolt right on now that I've taken some measurements, we just need to actually bolt it on to confirm for sure. I got the 1199 magnesium 2-piece clutch cover for it, and waiting on the Termi exhaust, the lightweight stator kit and a few other bits to come in.

jj899_01.jpg
 
Trauma said:
With a handful of option$, you have an 1199 - do not see the point.:confused:
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Here's my take: For Ducati Superbike track bikes the past 9 years I've had a 749R, 1098, 848, 1198S, another 848, and an 1199. For my riding style/preferences the 749R and 848's both had something that the 1098/1198S and 1199 did not have. It's not based upon dollars and cents per cubic centimeter, it's about balance and usable power versus being overpowered. If you weren't going to push the bike to the limit on the track it may not be as obvious/important, but having a bike that you can use all of the power on gives you something that you don't get when you're riding around at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle most of the time. Example: I had the data acquisition system hooked up to my 1199 one weekend at Motorsports Park Hastings, and reviewing the data afterward there was less than 2 seconds total in an entire lap where the throttle was wide open. It's easy to think that you can "modulate" the power on the higher-HP bike to achieve the same result as using the full power output of the smaller bike, but in practice it's not that easy at all, at least for us non-professional riders. Having a bike that you can get to full-throttle on and focus on the other aspects of your riding rather than spending such a big portion of your attention in modulating the throttle has big benefits for many riders and they'll go around the track with a quicker lap time on the smaller bike. I also have a Ninja 300 track bike, and on that bike you never even think about the throttle, it's either wide-open or you're on the brakes, there's nothing in between, so you focus all your attention on cornering and you can really rail on it in a way that you could never do on a big bike. Hopefully the 899 has that same "magical" balance that I always found on the other mid-sized Ducati Superbikes. We'll find out, but it's going to be a long 3 1/2 months until our track season starts back up!
 
jarelj said:
Here's my take: For Ducati Superbike track bikes the past 9 years I've had a 749R, 1098, 848, 1198S, another 848, and an 1199. For my riding style/preferences the 749R and 848's both had something that the 1098/1198S and 1199 did not have. It's not based upon dollars and cents per cubic centimeter, it's about balance and usable power versus being overpowered. If you weren't going to push the bike to the limit on the track it may not be as obvious/important, but having a bike that you can use all of the power on gives you something that you don't get when you're riding around at 1/4 to 1/2 throttle most of the time. Example: I had the data acquisition system hooked up to my 1199 one weekend at Motorsports Park Hastings, and reviewing the data afterward there was less than 2 seconds total in an entire lap where the throttle was wide open. It's easy to think that you can "modulate" the power on the higher-HP bike to achieve the same result as using the full power output of the smaller bike, but in practice it's not that easy at all, at least for us non-professional riders. Having a bike that you can get to full-throttle on and focus on the other aspects of your riding rather than spending such a big portion of your attention in modulating the throttle has big benefits for many riders and they'll go around the track with a quicker lap time on the smaller bike. I also have a Ninja 300 track bike, and on that bike you never even think about the throttle, it's either wide-open or you're on the brakes, there's nothing in between, so you focus all your attention on cornering and you can really rail on it in a way that you could never do on a big bike. Hopefully the 899 has that same "magical" balance that I always found on the other mid-sized Ducati Superbikes. We'll find out, but it's going to be a long 3 1/2 months until our track season starts back up!
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Got any progress Pics? My 899 just came in and I'm keeping it in New York for when I am home. My 1199 is staying with me overseas as all the tracks here are real HP tracks. My thinking was the same"¦.the 899 should have useable power and be great on the smaller, more technical tracks of the NE. Your rear suspension work will have very interesting results! Want to hear about them :)
 
rocdoc said:
If I already own an 1199, but want an 899, could I do the following and achieve a similar result?

1. Duct tape of one of the cylinders
2. Plug up one of the headers
3. Seal one of the exhaust cans
4. Go back to the 2012 ECU map

Then I get to keep the single-sided swingarm, TFT dash, and Ohlin shocks.:p




Sorry guys, couldn't resist.:D
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Are you familiar with Wet Mode?
 

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