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For you or others who might (as I did previously) feel that using warmers looks like a big pain in the a** - let me offer some reassurance, it’s not.

I’m using warmers this year after being resistant to the idea the first two years I was doing track days because it seemed like such a hassle. Like many things though, you quickly acclimate and it becomes almost second nature. Using them isn’t a big hassle at all, and even though DOT track tires will warm up after a lap or so, using warmers will extend their life by minimizing the effects of heat cycling. I really appreciate using warmers now.
I'm always eager to learn. So using tire warmers extends tire life? Is this because you maintain the temperature throughout the day? I'm running Supercorsa SP V3s. Also, with the warmers do you still have to go easy for 1/2 a lap or so?
 
I'm always eager to learn. So using tire warmers extends tire life? Is this because you maintain the temperature throughout the day? I'm running Supercorsa SP V3s. Also, with the warmers do you still have to go easy for 1/2 a lap or so?
SP V3s don’t last long enough anyway to have to worry about heat cycling on the track. I don’t bother with warming them. My slicks and TDs absolutely get the warmers.

Even with warmers the first 1-2 laps are warm up and only going 60-70%. This is mostly to adjust vision and get locked in, not really due to tires
 
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Tire warmers are ideal but require dedication and commitment to the process of tire mgmt and cycles. Once you go this route however very good things come about. First, you can ride as hard as you would at race pace from get go. Assuming you set the tires, and had proper warm up time to assure heat is throughout the carcass and felt through the rim. Think about racers on warm up laps many times on stickers right off warmers properly baked. As fast as they would go in the race.

Then, as you progress and learn more about cycling up ( and down) tire wear and life will improve. This is for race compound tires NOT STREET TIRES.

Speaking to street tires, while you can put SP on warmers to put a little heat into them they still have silica and that will make they greasy if they get too hot and then have less traction. not ideal. Race compounds sc0/1/2/3 do not have silica and require warmers for proper usage. Yes you can get by with a couple laps to warm em up. Not ideal.

the inconvenience of requiring stands electricity, bake times, cool down procedures and maintaining proper pressures pay dividends and actually make for a safer experience, higher performance on track. You’ll save money by getting more out of your tires In laps and cycles. But you cannot take it lightly or do it half hearted.

At the end of the day, for racers and track day enthusiasts tire warmers rock - chicken hawks are the best
 
Tire warmers are ideal but require dedication and commitment to the process of tire mgmt and cycles. Once you go this route however very good things come about. First, you can ride as hard as you would at race pace from get go. Assuming you set the tires, and had proper warm up time to assure heat is throughout the carcass and felt through the rim. Think about racers on warm up laps many times on stickers right off warmers properly baked. As fast as they would go in the race.

Then, as you progress and learn more about cycling up ( and down) tire wear and life will improve. This is for race compound tires NOT STREET TIRES.

Speaking to street tires, while you can put SP on warmers to put a little heat into them they still have silica and that will make they greasy if they get too hot and then have less traction. not ideal. Race compounds sc0/1/2/3 do not have silica and require warmers for proper usage. Yes you can get by with a couple laps to warm em up. Not ideal.

the inconvenience of requiring stands electricity, bake times, cool down procedures and maintaining proper pressures pay dividends and actually make for a safer experience, higher performance on track. You’ll save money by getting more out of your tires In laps and cycles. But you cannot take it lightly or do it half hearted.

At the end of the day, for racers and track day enthusiasts tire warmers rock - chicken hawks are the best

Well said! :)

I agree except for the best warmers - look into KLS.
 
Well said! :)

I agree except for the best warmers - look into KLS.
I’m old … been on CHR warmers since Brian Baker sold his Tire Bakers to Eric Wood for the Woodcraft product line early 2000s. Always done well with CHR and now with digital you can’t go wrong. So easy to set pressures, set temps and forget em. Check temp before heading on track Shazam! Ready to go! KLS looks like a solid product too my experience on various brands:models goes from old school Lockhart Phillips, TireBakers, Woodcraft, MotoD and my fav CHR.
 
PIRELLI PIRELLI PIRELLI

ROSSO CORSA 2 or SUPERCORSA TD

Corsa 2 are really good for track SC3 compound on the edges grips… Supercorsa is just SC3 everywhere lol so it wont last as much but grip levels are consistent…

if you Try Michelin just run the slicks, if you run Dunlop Q4 for track.


Low pressures on all this tires look up the specs for them on the internet and have someone tweak your suspension accordingly For you and tires! Hav fun !
 
i agree with no silica on the track. even and specially for not that experienced ones. watching temp and pressure is way more important with silica.
a little to cold slick is not so bad as a melting silica, profiled or not.
 
i agree with no silica on the track. even and specially for not that experienced ones. watching temp and pressure is way more important with silica.
a little to cold slick is not so bad as a melting silica, profiled or not.
No question silica and warmers are a bad idea. New TD focused tires (SC3) work great without em
 
No question silica and warmers are a bad idea. New TD focused tires (SC3) work great without em

Where are you getting this info Myke?

I ask because I’ve just done some research and can’t find specific recommendations to avoid using warmers with tires containing silica. Additionally, I’m pretty sure warmers are used with silica-containing race rain tires.
 
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Where are you getting this info Myke?

I ask because I’ve just done some research and can’t find specific recommendations to avoid using warmers with tires containing silica. Additionally, I’m pretty sure warmers are used with silica-containing race rain tires.

rains are very different than street tires.If you have experience on rains the you know you aim for puddles so you don’t burn em up. Even so rains are an exception. You only put a little heat into them … like a street tire (see attached)

speaking to silica and tire warmers usage. Purely my own experience and hanging around tire vendors race tracks since 1999.

I had a student riding a panigale R on SuperCorsa SPs overcook em and the tires became so greasy his performance went the other direction. Swapped em out for SC1/2 DOTS using same cycles and he improved immediately.

last, you can ask your tire vendor about this.

silica is sand. When heated acts differently than pure race rubber. Combined with rubber can get greasy. Think about why you DONT see silica in track specific tires like SC3 formerly TD.

since rains could operate in wide variance of temps it makes sense to have silica in em. Many times as an intermediate for racing wed use DOTs non race like SPs. Once again much less heat. Overcook is easy to do
 
Might be a dumb question but how many times can you mount/unmount a tire?
So long as rubber is good it’s more about number of heat cycles. You can mount em as many times as you like. It’s the heat up/down that counts deteriorates the tire. Minimize the cycles. I even store my tires in basement to keep em cool in between rounds as opposed to hot trailer to keep cycles down.
 
It always amazes me how you can feel it with new tires and suddenly the bikes talking to you and you can literally "feel" right into the contact patch. The trick is to maintain that sensitivity as they wear, I guess thats one reason why the pros are so good.
 

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