Where your Ducati is made?
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It matters if you care about people in your country having more higher pay jobs, and the quality of labor. Assembly in China by the lowest bidder is different than Italy with close factory oversite. I'm not saying China is unskilled and you could probably get close to the same assembly quality but not for a price worth moving assembly for
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You've got a valid point...Those German engineers that designed the V2 rocket, who employed Jewish workers from Mittelbau-Dora concentration camp, really produced a high quality product at competitive prices.
Lol, heavy on the sarcasm here. Why dont you just come out with whatever political point you're trying to make instead of trying to act like you care about the product?
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Is it wrong to move your product if the bottom line is improved for the investors?
After all doesn’t the stock market work that way?
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Political? No, just psychological. Some answers do support that Dr. Stanley Milgram's experiment was conclusive.
That V2 did sorta same thing as Ducati x99 V2...
Straight up - straight down. Smoked outta the game
Seems like Germans better at building .... that fly’s on the road than in the air
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Yeah, that’s definitely not the way...
This is the way... The only way!
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IMO it matters hugely. I made high tech self driving prototype cars in Italy along with a list of other Silicon Valley startups for a reason. They know their stuff up down and sideways. I've also been putting a lot of products in production in China for the last 20 years.
I'll give you some anecdotal evidence and you decide.
China - By law, every Chinese new year, all labor contracts are ended and new ones start again. Around 75% of the employees at your typical factory do not return and a fresh set of country bumpkins who've typically never even seen a coffee machine go to work. You can see people basically killing themselves in dangerous environments daily. I was reviewing my product line once at a factory where Lenovo was also painting it's laptop cases. There was a paint booth with foot thick doors and submarine window because the stuff they paint them with is that toxic. I look in the window at the robot arm painting laptops and THERE'S A GUY IN THERE WITH NOTHING BUT A DUST MASK LOADING THE SHELVES. I look at the manager and I say, how often do you change that guy? He says, "about every 2 weeks." They sit squarely between, "fking clueless & give ZERO fuks." Apple has its iPhones made at Foxconn the most expensive factory (over 800,000 employees) arguing that 'if X-quality, we'll be #1 in the world and we all make money + sub-X quality we're not paying for.' So they get X amount of quality. Everyone else, good luck. I've never once put something in production in China without flying there teaching, begging, negotiating, screaming, threatening, to maintain a minimum quality. They'll switch out your steel for pot-metal because they save $.003 on parts. And then you have to figure out why you've got a shipment of 10,000 parts that are breaking all of the sudden. It's a non-stop battle for bare minimum.
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We made high tech car prototypes in Marenello, (near Ferrari, not far from Ducati) along with a lot of other car and motorcycle companies including Ford, because there is so much history there. Those people have been doing it for generations. I don't go to Marenello to teach anyone anything, they teach me and they are the best in the world at it and people in the car industry know it. If you ask a German, you may hear, it's Bavaria - everyone is going to have their opinion.
But the answer is ya, it matters hugely.
I'll give you some anecdotal evidence and you decide.
China - By law, every Chinese new year, all labor contracts are ended and new ones start again. Around 75% of the employees at your typical factory do not return and a fresh set of country bumpkins who've typically never even seen a coffee machine go to work. You can see people basically killing themselves in dangerous environments daily. I was reviewing my product line once at a factory where Lenovo was also painting it's laptop cases. There was a paint booth with foot thick doors and submarine window because the stuff they paint them with is that toxic. I look in the window at the robot arm painting laptops and THERE'S A GUY IN THERE WITH NOTHING BUT A DUST MASK LOADING THE SHELVES. I look at the manager and I say, how often do you change that guy? He says, "about every 2 weeks." They sit squarely between, "fking clueless & give ZERO fuks." Apple has its iPhones made at Foxconn the most expensive factory (over 800,000 employees) arguing that 'if X-quality, we'll be #1 in the world and we all make money + sub-X quality we're not paying for.' So they get X amount of quality. Everyone else, good luck. I've never once put something in production in China without flying there teaching, begging, negotiating, screaming, threatening, to maintain a minimum quality. They'll switch out your steel for pot-metal because they save $.003 on parts. And then you have to figure out why you've got a shipment of 10,000 parts that are breaking all of the sudden. It's a non-stop battle for bare minimum.
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We made high tech car prototypes in Marenello, (near Ferrari, not far from Ducati) along with a lot of other car and motorcycle companies including Ford, because there is so much history there. Those people have been doing it for generations. I don't go to Marenello to teach anyone anything, they teach me and they are the best in the world at it and people in the car industry know it. If you ask a German, you may hear, it's Bavaria - everyone is going to have their opinion.
But the answer is ya, it matters hugely.
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Italy ! And they make amazing gelato as well ….
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and italians, but not enough to replace themselves!
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