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Hitter11

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I can't for the life of me decide if I should do the 41T sprocket upgrade. I don't track my bike and never will. I use it for street riding (not racing) and I live in the Chicago suburbs where there are no such thing as twistes. I mean I push the bike but not even close to its limits.

I asked my dealer and the rep there said it will only benefit on the track unless I want a wheelie monster... I'm not entirely sure I believe that since I know what the sprocket does from everything I've read on here and other forums.

Based on what I use my bike for is it worth it??
 
Hitter11 said:
I can't for the life of me decide if I should do the 41T sprocket upgrade. I don't track my bike and never will. I use it for street riding (not racing) and I live in the Chicago suburbs where there are no such thing as twistes. I mean I push the bike but not even close to its limits.

I asked my dealer and the rep there said it will only benefit on the track unless I want a wheelie monster... I'm not entirely sure I believe that since I know what the sprocket does from everything I've read on here and other forums.

Based on what I use my bike for is it worth it??
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No disrespect, but that is entirely up to you. If you are competely satisfied with the bike now, why change it? if you think you can use little bit of pick up acceleration, you should do it or maybe you can find someone with it and see if you like it? :D

Me personally, will do it and I am street/track guy.
 
i'm pretty much in the exact same boat as you except i live in the suburbs in kansas city instead of chicago. i'm leaning towards the upgrade as well but i'm still waiting to see what is said about cost. either way, it's not very expensive and who knows, we may find our way to the track one day.
 
for non trackers : the ride will becone more active as you will change gear more often.. it should keep you in higher revs so the bike picks up faster twice : once on the revs, once on the sprocket... the bike livelies up quit a bit...

and this effect will double when you're big and bulky.. as there airodynamics won't help you either

of course for doinf 55mph in 5, what's the use...
but you paid some money to be lively, no?
 
kope999R said:
for non trackers : the ride will becone more active as you will change gear more often.. it should keep you in higher revs so the bike picks up faster twice : once on the revs, once on the sprocket... the bike livelies up quit a bit...

and this effect will double when you're big and bulky.. as there airodynamics won't help you either

of course for doinf 55mph in 5, what's the use...
but you paid some money to be lively, no?
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It's not so much of the lively aspect it's the wheelie monster (as my dealer rep put it) that got me a bit worried. He insisted, no matter what I said I had read or seen, this upgrade will force the front of the bike TOO easily. Which he said will cause me to have to fight the bike to keep it down. To be honest I found it hard to believe but I guess it did cause some doubt.

I'm not worried about controlling the bike because I can. It just made me wonder if it's to make me overly aware of this every time I accelerate causing more annoyance for everyday type riding... I hope that make sense.

As for being satisfied with the bike I am. But I guess I'm so torn because I don't know if I will like the upgrade or not. And if not then that's $400 I could've spent on something else I want to do to the bike. :)

As for the cost he told me $400
 
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If you're happy with the bike now why bother changing? Unless you open the throttle and think "I wish I just had a little more" it's not worth it. Spend the $400 on something else. I'm not going to bother with it. I like the fact that the bike is pretty civilized up to 7-8k and a beast after that. If I want/need more acceleration I can just twist the grip harder.
 
I am having the same debate with myself. I really don't care for more power. My issue is that for the curvies and low speed riding, I get stuck in first gear which is too torquey and difficult to maintain smoothness. I'd much rather be able to stay in second. My thought being that the extra revs will allow me to be in 2nd for 30 mph tight twisties as I really never like being in first, especially entering a corner. Is my thinking correct on this? Now my competing concern is that I am happy otherwise with the power, and already battle how torquey this bike is compared to my last RSV4, the 4 cylinder being very smooth. Luckily I have the EBC to smoothen it out, but still a jerky ride compared to the aprilia. I fear this would be more pronounced with the sprocket change, though, again, maybe balanced out by being able to be in 2nd earlier. I do really hope I can a find one to ride that has the change. I figure that is the only way I'll know.
 
also, keep in mind, changing the sprockets out will mean the motor is revving higher in every gear, so you're working the engine more in around town riding.

For me, I'm happy with it as it is.
 
I have the 14t which is essentialy having a 42 in the rear. I can tell you it is not a wheelie monster. What it does give you is more low end which is what the bike, IMO, is missing. I think it is a must to really make it rideable on the street.
 
never try, never fail.
you must always try, because if you never fail, you will never succeed.

- NO FEAR
 
lardawge said:
I have the 14t which is essentialy having a 42 in the rear. I can tell you it is not a wheelie monster. What it does give you is more low end which is what the bike, IMO, is missing. I think it is a must to really make it rideable on the street.
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+1
 
Phil said:
never try, never fail.
you must always try, because if you never fail, you will never succeed.

- NO FEAR
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Wait, if you never fail you will never succeed? But if you never fail, wouldn't you always succeed. And if you never try, you'll never fail. So your failure rate will be 0. You will also fail to succeed. Though you will succeed in never failing. So failing to try can lead to success and failure, a failure to succeed and success in never failing. So don't fail to try to succeed. ;)
 
Denver Rick said:
I am having the same debate with myself. I really don't care for more power. My issue is that for the curvies and low speed riding, I get stuck in first gear which is too torquey and difficult to maintain smoothness. I'd much rather be able to stay in second. My thought being that the extra revs will allow me to be in 2nd for 30 mph tight twisties as I really never like being in first, especially entering a corner. Is my thinking correct on this? Now my competing concern is that I am happy otherwise with the power, and already battle how torquey this bike is compared to my last RSV4, the 4 cylinder being very smooth. Luckily I have the EBC to smoothen it out, but still a jerky ride compared to the aprilia. I fear this would be more pronounced with the sprocket change, though, again, maybe balanced out by being able to be in 2nd earlier. I do really hope I can a find one to ride that has the change. I figure that is the only way I'll know.
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With your scenario of 30mph corners.. current gearing gives you
4453 Rpm in 1st
3385 Rpm in 2nd

15/41 gives you

4681 Rpm in 1st
3559 Rpm in 2nd

Not sure 15/41 is going to give you quite what you need.. although its an improvement... :)
 
Denver Rick said:
I am having the same debate with myself. I really don't care for more power. My issue is that for the curvies and low speed riding, I get stuck in first gear which is too torquey and difficult to maintain smoothness. I'd much rather be able to stay in second. My thought being that the extra revs will allow me to be in 2nd for 30 mph tight twisties as I really never like being in first, especially entering a corner. Is my thinking correct on this? Now my competing concern is that I am happy otherwise with the power, and already battle how torquey this bike is compared to my last RSV4, the 4 cylinder being very smooth. Luckily I have the EBC to smoothen it out, but still a jerky ride compared to the aprilia. I fear this would be more pronounced with the sprocket change, though, again, maybe balanced out by being able to be in 2nd earlier. I do really hope I can a find one to ride that has the change. I figure that is the only way I'll know.
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It's funny you said this because I had this same feeling about first gear, in terms of smoothness. I never really thought whether this could fix it or not.

I also know I've said it would be nice to have some more low end power but I don't want it if it would sacrifice smooth and natural every day riding.

Lardawge - thanks for the insight. I had actually thought about asking someone I know who changed his front sprocket to a 14T. Too bad I don't know anyone in the area with either of these changes to see if I could try their bike.

Maybe after what I'm seeing I'll give it a shot...
 
thanks guys, I think my heads going to explode! :D

So can we agree, if I NEVER try, I'll never fail???? ;)

Denver Rick said:
Wait, if you never fail you will never succeed? But if you never fail, wouldn't you always succeed. And if you never try, you'll never fail. So your failure rate will be 0. You will also fail to succeed. Though you will succeed in never failing. So failing to try can lead to success and failure, a failure to succeed and success in never failing. So don't fail to try to succeed. ;)
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