My 2023 V4 Panigale track build

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At 5'3" and 170 lbs, you're going to have a lot of trouble with ergonomics on a V4. I'm 5'7", 130 lbs, and pretty flexible and this bike has been a not easy to fit. The tank is too wide at the legs with not enough scalloping to engage your knees into the tank and the tank itself is to tall and wide at the top near the triples. For me, my forearms foul with the front of the tank.

Here's what the tank and seat layouts look like. (red=Duc, orange=Honda, blue=Yamaha). They Honda has the better seat and tank layout for shorter people.

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At 5'3" and 170 lbs, you're going to have a lot of trouble with ergonomics on a V4. I'm 5'7", 130 lbs, and pretty flexible and this bike has been a not easy to fit. The tank is too wide at the legs with not enough scalloping to engage your knees into the tank and the tank itself is to tall and wide at the top near the triples. For me, my forearms foul with the front of the tank.

Here's what the tank and seat layouts look like. (red=Duc, orange=Honda, blue=Yamaha). They Honda has the better seat and tank layout for shorter people.

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Fully aware. I sit way better on my v2. I hope the radegarage tank will help improving ergos. Honda or anything else is not an option at the moment. I rode the bike 2800 miles already and had a few trackdays. It's not that's unrideable for me. But I agree, it's not optimal.
 
Absolutely stunning. Now my fingers are itching....... curious about details like the tank, where to get something like that? I went pretty deep in with my zx4rr and propably would have done smarter to start with parts instead of a bike so i can totally understand the approach you took. Killer machine!

Tank requires subframe and corse electronics, its a very tight fit compared to OEM, front of the tank has about 5mm clearance from top of box
 

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Big fan of these guys, they just came in today from HSBK among some other goodies.

Fork decision is done as well. I bought via ebay kleinanzeigen Germany a set of shows for 300 bucks and send them to TGP for their special treatment.

Took the front fender down and wait for my Merlotti quick connect fender mount to mock up new brake lines. I want the staubli quick connects that I run on all my bikes.

On a side note, the new daily came in as well.

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Next week Wednesday I have surgery finally and than the lengthy road of recovery will start. Hopefully I'm able to ride a few laps at turkeydaz in Buttonwillow end of Nov, preferably on the panigale.
 
Ok good to know and thanks to the others voting for showa as well.
I got a harley dyna with a nix30 kraus front end that gives me better feedback than the showa. Therefore I had that thing on the chopping board since day one. We have done proper suspension set up as with all the other bikes but we never actually went in the internals and messed with it.

What is the best approach to the Showa than? Just out of curiosity?

+ 1 on the Showa forks. They are very good. Best OEM forks I've ridden. If I was just doing track days, I'd probably leave them. That said, the NIX are a great option. That's what I'm going with on my V2. OEM Shock is actually pretty good, as well.

I'd probably leave the brakes like they are. As the rest of the bike. I think you've got a good base.

+1 on focusing on riding it more. If you're serious about improving, you're way better off having a sh*tty bike, and riding it often and focusing on learning, than having a WSS level bike and riding it three times season.
 
Since I'm already on the suspension,
how 'up to date' is the topic of the linear rear shock linkage aka the forsaken motorsports? I've read through several older threads and just wanted to understand if that is something that has proven to be a significant element or just a minor?
 
What pace do you ride?

I would say B group.
I didn't really ride the bike on the track before at all. I got a tricked out zx4rr and 250r as my go to track bikes. The zx4rr In SoW I'm at 1.31.
My plan is to ride the panigale in chuckwalla over the winter as much as I can and than decide if I like it and keep it or send the bike over to Europe in it's natural habitat.
 
Chris ignore the negative comments, build the bike you want and use it however you feel like. The V4 is a good track bike, you dont have to use full power, short shift until you get comfortable or create a setup map that works for you. The big downside of the V4 is that its expensive compared to a garden variety gixxer otherwise its all good.
 
Chris ignore the negative comments, build the bike you want and use it however you feel like. The V4 is a good track bike, you dont have to use full power, short shift until you get comfortable or create a setup map that works for you. The big downside of the V4 is that its expensive compared to a garden variety gixxer otherwise its all good.

For sure. There's a couple of people on here you just need to just block. It's kind of sad, really.

Yeah, I hopefully didn't seem dismissive in my comment. If you want to upgrade some stuff, go for it. It's always fun to make badass upgrades, if you can throw the money at it. We all do upgrades in life that aren't "necessary."

I was just adding some input that the bikes these days, particularly these new Panigales, come equipped so good out of the factory, that you can really push them far hard, and progress your riding, with minimal upgrades. The brakes on that bike are awesome. But if you want something cooler, fair enough!

What I will also add, that I did not see in your descriptions, is to get a tune / flash. I do this on every bike that I own - street or race. The bikes come tuned from the factory so horribly these days to please emissions requirements that none of them run well out of the gate. If you're looking at a full exhaust, this will be necessary. A custom dyno is always best, but I've had really good experiences with "out of the box" tunes for street / casual track riding. You just need to get it close. As it comes from the factory, it's a mile off. When I first got my V2, and rode it on the street, it was almost dangerous how jerky and odd it was in the mid range.
 
I would say B group.

Is it B group or not?

You want opinions but you don’t. Sounds like you just want people to agree with you more than anything.

None of these mods will help if you haven’t developed the skill to exploit them. A stock V4 can run a couple seconds off WSBK lap times so these mods are marginal. Spend the money on track time and tires not poseur fancy parts.

But sure that linear link is going to turn you into Rossi smh
 
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don't mind me I'm going to go build me a full basketball court with 7ft rims. I like to dunk.

There is an old story attributed to Willie Nelson.... something to the effect of the benefits of owning your own golf course, because par is what ever you want it to be... He said "that hole is a par 9, and yesterday I birdied it".

Do your own thing, man!
 
Since I'm already on the suspension,
how 'up to date' is the topic of the linear rear shock linkage aka the forsaken motorsports? I've read through several older threads and just wanted to understand if that is something that has proven to be a significant element or just a minor?

I have it on my 22 base with a lot of mods. I would say its noticeable. Why wouldn't you want the suspension acting in a consistent linear motion, far superior to something that gets stiffer the further up the travel it goes and is designed to assist with pillion riding. why not👍


I also have the spider cooling ducts and to the uninitiated you could believe they are a bit of bull...... but again I found them noticeable in cooling the discs and callipers and clearing the build up of dust..... why not take the advantage.
 
Is it B group or not?

You want opinions but you don’t. Sounds like you just want people to agree with you more than anything.

None of these mods will help if you haven’t developed the skill to exploit them. A stock V4 can run a couple seconds off WSBK lap times so these mods are marginal. Spend the money on track time and tires not poseur fancy parts.

But sure that linear link is going to turn you into Rossi smh

I've been saying this for years, a well set up stock bike with sticky tires is all you need until you are really fast. But that misses the point, which is that bikes are toys and we like to improve them regardless of the cost/benefit ratio. If someone wants to spend mega bucks on that journey, it's not for me to tell them they can't.
 
I've been saying this for years, a well set up stock bike with sticky tires is all you need until you are really fast. But that misses the point, which is that bikes are toys and we like to improve them regardless of the cost/benefit ratio. If someone wants to spend mega bucks on that journey, it's not for me to tell them they can't.

Because for the uninitiated it’s easy for these “upgrades” to actually hamper you rather than improve.

Thinking motorcycles are toys is the wrong thinking. They should be thought of as tools
 

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