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Sure does. I should research some posts from when the 1098 was released and compare the amount of complaints regarding heat, comfort, craftsmanship etc. I bet they would be similiar.
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Nope, sorry. Unless of course you have a six-times-as-expensive RS, in which case I apologize.
The ones they sell for us peons to get licensed and poke around on thinking we're all that are streetbikes. No, the Pani's not a Multi or even a Monster, and yes, it's a lot more track-oriented than a SF. I get that; been around motorbikes a long time, know what sportbikes are and how they evolved. My first one was an RZ350, which I bought new from the dealership I was GM of at the time.My point on the topic of this thread (heat) is really that while they were making all those other concessions to streetability (and there are many), they should have paid a bit more attention to that functional aspect of the bike. And the only thing it would have cost them was maybe (and that's at most a maybe) a very few style points. I understand them wanting to "show some leg", what with the Superquadro motor and frameless chassis being the heart of the bike, but what they did by not paying more attention to heat shielding was compromise the real-world useability of the bike for quite a few people. Excessive heat is a common topic in just about any Ducati forum, and a common (negative) observation in street-oriented media tests.
Heck, we've even seen people posting pics of actual burns they've gotten from normal use of the thing. If it were a car or appliance, there would be lawsuits and recalls galore (at least in the U.S.) Now us sportbike sorts tend to be more tolerant of things that might hurt us (imagine!), and true Ducatisti have learned to put up with design shortcomings over many years of red coolaid guzzling. So of course a lot of folks will just say get used to it or claim it's not a problem for them, and that's fine - for them. But it sounds a lot like people apologizing for the myriad of POS problems buyers used to rationalize in their Lambos. Audi sorted them out for the better, and I expect them to with Ducati. Refinement isn't all bad.
I'll wrap this way; if I'd been managing the project I wouldn't have let it get out like that, no one would be getting roasted, and it would be a better motorbike. And faster and better-looking too, plus it would make a nice leg of lamb. Oh wait, it already cooks just fine...
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I rather cook my leg than being at a stop light next to someone riding the Pani while I am on a Different bike....LOL
Riding in 36-38C here in Vietnam...still love every bit of the Pani.
Riding in 36-38C here in Vietnam...still love every bit of the Pani.
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A lot of you guys should get out of the city more and onto the twisties or into the mountains . Use the damn thing for what it's made .
I do not wish to offend anyone with the following comment nor do I accuse anyone but for people who are riding the Panigale in flip-flops and shorts... I mean... really?! That's just plain stupid. Proper gear looks way cooler on a superbike and more importantly it will protect you and keep some of the heat away from your leg. So gear up and drive it like you stole it!!
. Use the damn thing for what it's made .I do not wish to offend anyone with the following comment nor do I accuse anyone but for people who are riding the Panigale in flip-flops and shorts... I mean... really?! That's just plain stupid. Proper gear looks way cooler on a superbike and more importantly it will protect you and keep some of the heat away from your leg. So gear up and drive it like you stole it!!
A lot of you guys should get out of the city more and onto the twisties or into the mountains
I do not wish to offend anyone with the following comment nor do I accuse anyone but for people who are riding the Panigale in flip-flops and shorts... I mean... really?! That's just plain stupid. Proper gear looks way cooler on a superbike and more importantly it will protect you and keep some of the heat away from your leg. So gear up and drive it like you stole it!!
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OR....you could look at the flip side of the coin....during the winter time you will never be cold!!!
Im seconding Gunny's remark....COME ON MAN!
Im seconding Gunny's remark....COME ON MAN!
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OR....you could look at the flip side of the coin....during the winter time you will never be cold!!!
+1! Come October, things will be nice and toasty
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Maybe that's how they decide on their new model release schedule. Spend years fixing all the issues, then when the bike is finally problem free release a new model the next year.
+1 lol
I get what you're saying and while I don't want to get into a pissing contest I'll respectfully say that I disagree. Some items are built for a specific intended purpose even though the manufacture knows full well that it'll be used for others. Lights, mirrors and tag mounts do not change the intended purpose of the bike. Erik Buell slapped lights and mirrors on his 1190RS so he could go racing. It's less streetable than a Pani. There are several light and mirror kits available for my Yamaha MX dirtbike, but once installed it's intended purpose doesn't change.Nope, sorry. Unless of course you have a six-times-as-expensive RS, in which case I apologize.
My point on the topic of this thread (heat) is really that while they were making all those other concessions to streetability (and there are many), they should have paid a bit more attention to that functional aspect of the bike. And the only thing it would have cost them was maybe (and that's at most a maybe) a very few style points. I understand them wanting to "show some leg", what with the Superquadro motor and frameless chassis being the heart of the bike, but what they did by not paying more attention to heat shielding was compromise the real-world useability of the bike for quite a few people. Excessive heat is a common topic in just about any Ducati forum, and a common (negative) observation in street-oriented media tests.
Heck, we've even seen people posting pics of actual burns they've gotten from normal use of the thing. If it were a car or appliance, there would be lawsuits and recalls galore (at least in the U.S.) Now us sportbike sorts tend to be more tolerant of things that might hurt us (imagine!), and true Ducatisti have learned to put up with design shortcomings over many years of red coolaid guzzling. So of course a lot of folks will just say get used to it or claim it's not a problem for them, and that's fine - for them. But it sounds a lot like people apologizing for the myriad of POS problems buyers used to rationalize in their Lambos. Audi sorted them out for the better, and I expect them to with Ducati. Refinement isn't all bad.
I'll wrap this way; if I'd been managing the project I wouldn't have let it get out like that, no one would be getting roasted, and it would be a better motorbike. And faster and better-looking too, plus it would make a nice leg of lamb. Oh wait, it already cooks just fine...
I don't know the Ducati designer(s) or chief engineers therefore I could be wrong, but I'm of the opinion that where superbikes are concerned Ducati designs race bikes first then makes them streetable. This means as consumers we’ll have to deal with a few nuances (Heat) that would otherwise not affect anyone on a race track.
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Agreed ( but only for the superbikes... :-] )
Yup, all good.
guess the thing that bugs me about that and a few other things is that it didn't have to be that way. Could have still been just as good in every way as it is (and I do like mine), without that being an issue. Would probably have looked a little different in the area of contention, but it would eliminated that as an issue and made for a better riding experience. Tweak the scale a wee bit more towards function as opposed to form, you know.
guess the thing that bugs me about that and a few other things is that it didn't have to be that way. Could have still been just as good in every way as it is (and I do like mine), without that being an issue. Would probably have looked a little different in the area of contention, but it would eliminated that as an issue and made for a better riding experience. Tweak the scale a wee bit more towards function as opposed to form, you know.
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1) Wear jeans (not a dress), boots and not heels;
2) Buy Termi slip-ons to delete catalytic converter and alleviate heat;
3) Use thermo-wrap at the rear header loop; and
4) Ride the hell out of it and stop complaining.
This thread and others like it should be automatically deleted. Or, in the alternative - the thread should be labeled automatically, "Oh, my P&@@% hurts!!!"
2) Buy Termi slip-ons to delete catalytic converter and alleviate heat;
3) Use thermo-wrap at the rear header loop; and
4) Ride the hell out of it and stop complaining.
This thread and others like it should be automatically deleted. Or, in the alternative - the thread should be labeled automatically, "Oh, my P&@@% hurts!!!"
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rofl!
Fair enoughYup, all good.
guess the thing that bugs me about that and a few other things is that it didn't have to be that way. Could have still been just as good in every way as it is (and I do like mine), without that being an issue. Would probably have looked a little different in the area of contention, but it would eliminated that as an issue and made for a better riding experience. Tweak the scale a wee bit more towards function as opposed to form, you know.
That's some funny ....! LOL
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Don't hold back, man...tell us how you really feel!! ;-)
Agree that buyer assumes all risks inherent in such a machine. It is what it is. Ride it or sell it...but please stop the whining.
There is never an excuse for not wearing your proper gear. Period. Wear it and you'll be more comfortable with the heat issues and more importantly, safer.
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Problem is that the Panigale is the first Ducati that is beloved by almost every biker.
Result is a loooot of people who have never riden a Ducati before now jump on the bandwagon and get their balls burnt.
Yes, this is no comfortable japanese, this is an italian racemonster, live with it or swap back to that boring japanese !
Back in those days with my 999s i had to stand next to the bike when waiting for trafficlights, sitting on the sadle while waiting was a no go, but did i cry ?
No !! Because when it rolls it's a beast and that's all where Ducati is about !
Result is a loooot of people who have never riden a Ducati before now jump on the bandwagon and get their balls burnt.
Yes, this is no comfortable japanese, this is an italian racemonster, live with it or swap back to that boring japanese !
Back in those days with my 999s i had to stand next to the bike when waiting for trafficlights, sitting on the sadle while waiting was a no go, but did i cry ?
No !! Because when it rolls it's a beast and that's all where Ducati is about !
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