1299 S with 41 tooth rear sprocket

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80shilling said:
You know, strangely, my mpg is exactly the same on my commute.. I think it's because I have to be on the throttle LESS to get the result I desire and I can actually be in 6th gear, without having to go 85 mph.. I always get around 130 miles from a tank on my weekly commute to work. I take the identical route every day.

Like I said, I went 14 tooth front and am loving it.
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Interesting. I did the 14t on my Hyper and mpg went down but in its defense I was hooning a wee bit!:)The 14 made the Hyper's gearbox feel like the gear box in my sister in law's 2002 GTI...perfect!
 
b9009b said:
Speedy or Shilling - to clarify when you do the 41t it raises the revs 500 from what the dash shows(7500 is really 8000) or it revs faster so where I would normally be lets say 4500rpm in 3rd gear it now gonna be 5000rpm in 3rd gear at same throttle amount?
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Go into the setting menu on the dash and you can do a new calibration for changes in gearing or tires etc.. Once you get it started, then ride at between 35 to 38 mph for a short distance and it will readjust the speedo for the new gearing etc. The older bikes like the 1198 and 1098 would not do this and if you changed to another tire etc. it would throw off the Traction Control and Speedo etc.

I believe it is approximately 450 to 500 extra rpm by going down one tooth on the front sprocket. *There is some real advantage in going down one tooth in the front (or up a couple in the rear) while riding on the street because it takes less throttle/ less clutch slipping to take off from a light etc. and you can use a taller gear on the highway. I never get out of 5th on the highway with the stock gearing unless I want to do over 90 mph! and that will get you busted quick here in the Austin area... This bike is geared for the EPA noise so it is pretty high in first so they can drive by at a lower rpm and pass the noise regulations and CARB etc. Pretty sad to see what the damn government is doing to the world in the name of so called "Climate Change" It is all total BS...
The government will do everything it can to tax your and rule over you with more and more regulations.. They never get enough..:mad:

Speedy
 
speedy14 said:
Go into the setting menu on the dash and you can do a new calibration for changes in gearing or tires etc.. Once you get it started, then ride at between 35 to 38 mph for a short distance and it will readjust the speedo for the new gearing etc. The older bikes like the 1198 and 1098 would not do this and if you changed to another tire etc. it would throw off the Traction Control and Speedo etc.

I believe it is approximately 450 to 500 extra rpm by going down one tooth on the front sprocket. *There is some real advantage in going down one tooth in the front (or up a couple in the rear) while riding on the street because it takes less throttle/ less clutch slipping to take off from a light etc. and you can use a taller gear on the highway. I never get out of 5th on the highway with the stock gearing unless I want to do over 90 mph! and that will get you busted quick here in the Austin area... This bike is geared for the EPA noise so it is pretty high in first so they can drive by at a lower rpm and pass the noise regulations and CARB etc. Pretty sad to see what the damn government is doing to the world in the name of so called "Climate Change" It is all total BS...
The government will do everything it can to tax your and rule over you with more and more regulations.. They never get enough..:mad:

Speedy
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I have an 1199 I don't have the awesome menu's you do lol.. And I agree
 
Freddy46 said:
I had a 1199 S with a 41 tooth rear sprocket. I didn’t try with the original setup (39 tooth) since it has been modified before I brought the bike but I really loved my 1199 S with 41 tooth!

Obviously, I crashed my 1199 S. Now, I ride a brand new 1299 S with the original setup (39 tooth). At low speed, it can be pain in the ...! I do only street ride (no track).

Considering that the 1299 has a different engine compare to 1199, I’m hesitating to go with 41 tooth.

Has someone already installed a 41 tooth rear sprocket on a 1299 S? Any feedback and/or recommendations?
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I have an 1199S. I switched to the 41 rear 520. But one of the reasons was weight. I wrote my impressions at the time last year. It was better in traffic but when I went to a riding area which has some real open road and some really big fast sweepers where you can get the speeds up a lot I found it had lost some legs and the 39 on that particular road would have been better. So depends on where you ride and how fast etc. Like someone mentioned track riders are changing gearing all the time to suit each track. If I was riding those open roads all the time I would go back to the 39. But still in 520 and alloy.
 
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b9009b said:
Speedy or Shilling - to clarify when you do the 41t it raises the revs 500 from what the dash shows(7500 is really 8000) or it revs faster so where I would normally be lets say 4500rpm in 3rd gear it now gonna be 5000rpm in 3rd gear at same throttle amount?
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No that is frogshit. Unless you change the rear wheel diameter you do not need to recalibrate anything.

Your revs will go up relative to your road speed. Say 5000 rpm in any given gear will just be slower than it was before.
 
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Thanks guys for your advices and comments...very appreciated!

It’s clear that 14T solution is the cheapest way to go (no chain change). But if money is no object, 15/41 is a bit less radical than 14/39 (14/39 is maybe too short for me). Also, it seems that a larger rear sprocket is better for less wear on the components compare to smaller front sprocket.

Anyway, as @Chaotic mentionned, gearing is a "living thing" as suspension setup.
 
Something else to consider, I don't know where the Panigale gets its pick up from, but on many bikes changing sprockets makes the speedometer off. All speedometers are off on bikes anyway, but changing gearing makes them WAY off (especially if you go something like -1/+2 like I did on my R1 and RSV4).

That is why there are things like the "Speedohealer" on the market.

On the track, it doesn't matter. You wont do enough miles for it to make much of a difference and actually speed is irrelevant. But on street bikes, over years it will make the bike seem like it has many more miles on it than what it actually does...which can negatively impact resale.

Like I said, that might not be the case on the Panigale. But that is the case on most Jap bikes.
 
Marmoot said:
Panigale don't need speedo healer. Speed pickup is from the speed sensor on the wheels (not sure front or rear).
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Panigale and also older Ducati Superbikes (like 1098 and 1198) pick up speed signal from rear wheel sensor, so displayed speed is not changing because of final gearing change. Tire dimension change (especially change of diameter) of course will affect speedo. I guess auto tyre calibration function of 1299/1299S/Panigale R might be able to eliminate those as well, but I'm not sure here.
 
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Chaotic said:
Something else to consider, I don't know where the Panigale gets its pick up from, but on many bikes changing sprockets makes the speedometer off. All speedometers are off on bikes anyway, but changing gearing makes them WAY off (especially if you go something like -1/+2 like I did on my R1 and RSV4).

That is why there are things like the "Speedohealer" on the market.

On the track, it doesn't matter. You wont do enough miles for it to make much of a difference and actually speed is irrelevant. But on street bikes, over years it will make the bike seem like it has many more miles on it than what it actually does...which can negatively impact resale.

Like I said, that might not be the case on the Panigale. But that is the case on most Jap bikes.
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You are right about the track You don't have time to jack with looking at the speedometer very much it you want to keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up LOL

As I stated earlier. You can get the speedo auto corrected by going into the menu in the setup..)See your manual) You can re calibrate it again...(That was not possible on the older models).. Get it set up to re calibrate. Turn on a GPS or cell with GPS in it and get the bike up to 35 mph and hold it for about a block and a half and it will let you know when it is reset.. It is pretty accurate up to about 100mph then like all bikes it starts being a little optimistic...



Speedy
 
Marmoot said:
Panigale don't need speedo healer. Speed pickup is from the speed sensor on the wheels (not sure front or rear).
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Good info. Like I said, I didn't know where the Panigale got its pick up from. It varies by bike.
 
Good place to shope ?

80shilling said:
I went with a 14 tooth FRONT sprocket.. Don't need to change the chain and it's PHENOMENAL.. It makes 6th gear on the 1299 actually useable and it makes 3rd through 5th utterly berserk. A definite must, as far as I'm concerned.
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Can you help point me in a good direction where to purchase chain sprockets for a 1299 ? Other than the Ducati dealer preferred !

Thanks !
 
Pros: Usable 6th gear, lighter, better around town.

Cons: Decreased fuel economy, have to shift more often, wheelies. While wheelies might be cool, I'm a bigger fan of forward momentum.

Other than COTA, there isn't a track in TX where you'll "run out of gearing" on this setup. I still don't hit 6th at ECR or Cresson.
 

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I have the 520 chain on my 1199, But does the 1299 have a 525 chain? If so will need to switch that out!
 
jsgcb said:
I have the 520 chain on my 1199, But does the 1299 have a 525 chain? If so will need to switch that out!
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1199/1299 both ship with 525 pitch chains


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