14R with full akra or 15R

Gecko · May 7, 2015

IMHO, if one already has a 1199, keep it an use it. I fully agree with Chaotic's statement BTW.

Next time I'm going to buy another Ducati is when they release the it's successor superbike (if it's still running with fuel and its f*#king loud).

Indiana Jones · May 7, 2015

I say, get it if you can...you could be dead tomorrow! In all honesty, I don't know how many hobbies you have etc. if you use the bike a lot, it's your only vice, and financially it's no problem...go for it. But I would assume it's going to run around 5-10k to upgrade, in which case, that's a nice trip a dp on a rental home etc. There are so many variables, it's tough to sit here and give advice. If I'm allowed to spend your money, I say go for it! At the very least you're keeping the demand high and moving the economy! Which reminds me, I'd like to offer you 12,000 cash for your USED 1199R.

Panama1199R · May 20, 2015

Panigale R vs 1299/S

Here is something for everyone

Panama1199R · May 20, 2015

Panigale R motor

First picture is the 1299 s and this one is the 2015 R

Pretty much a SL motor.. If think the 1299 is better your crazy

bradp51 · May 21, 2015

jyli19 said:
If you have the financial means, get the 15R. Remember modding the 14R will void warranty.

f##k warranty

BadBoyBeltran · May 21, 2015

What does "dedicated intake camshaft" mean? How is this different from the 1199R?

Panama1199R said:
First picture is the 1299 s and this one is the 2015 R

Pretty much a SL motor.. If think the 1299 is better your crazy

JDBeretta · May 21, 2015

BadBoyBeltran said:
What does "dedicated intake camshaft" mean? How is this different from the 1199R?

Instead of cam lobes for the intake and exhaust ports being on one shaft, they have one camshaft for for each the intake and exhaust is what comes to mind.

SuperDuc29 · May 21, 2015

sexparty said:
2015 Panigale R.

That's what i'm doing, giving up the 2014 R and getting the new one. I think I'll retire the 2015 to my lounge room on some stands when I'm done. That new look will never get old.

What's the difference other than the white stripe?

BadBoyBeltran · May 21, 2015

Desmodromic valve system with the same cams for intake and exhaust for each cylinder???

I don't think that's accurate. I see two loves per cylinder head on the 1199s.

Looking at the cutaway drawing of a desmo engine right in front of me from back in 2004, my guess would be there are 4 chains now running from the camshaft: two for the intake cams and 2 for the exhaust cams.

Timing chains on the 2015 R now run on both sides of the engine ???

JDBeretta said:
Instead of cam lobes for the intake and exhaust ports being on one shaft, they have one camshaft for for each the intake and exhaust is what comes to mind.

Panama1199R · May 21, 2015

BadBoyBeltran said:
What does "dedicated intake camshaft" mean? How is this different from the 1199R?

It's Ducati's way for beating around the bush and not saying it's a full Superlegerra motor so people who spend $65k on a bike don't get piss

JDBeretta · May 21, 2015

BadBoyBeltran said:
Desmodromic valve system with the same cams for intake and exhaust for each cylinder???

I don't think that's accurate. I see two loves per cylinder head on the 1199s.

Looking at the cutaway drawing of a desmo engine right in front of me from back in 2004, my guess would be there are 4 chains now running from the camshaft: two for the intake cams and 2 for the exhaust cams.

Timing chains on the 2015 R now run on both sides of the engine ???

No, I said one cam for each, being Desmodromic.

Either way I was just kinda guessing.

BadBoyBeltran · May 21, 2015

I got you.

What I am saying is they are what you say they are already. The only thing I can think of that would make the 2015R have an additional independent cam drive is if a different set of chains drive both the intakes and exhausts cams.

JDBeretta said:
No, I said one cam for each, being Desmodromic.

Either way I was just kinda guessing.

JDBeretta · May 21, 2015

BadBoyBeltran said:
I got you.

What I am saying is they are what you say they are already. The only thing I can think of that would make the 2015R have an additional independent cam drive is if a different set of chains drive both the intakes and exhausts cams.

Hopefully we can find someone with a cutout accurate representation... I find the engineering for a lot of the things that are considered to be so "highly engineered" and complex to actually just be ingenious. Perfect example: the decompression piece for start-up. Why didn't I think of that?

Oh. Right. Engineering wasn't my major

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