2009 696 starting issue

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johanl46

Joined Apr 2018
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Durban, South Africa
Hi guys

My bike refused to start this morning. It was getting fuel cause I could smell it and turned over perfectly but just didn't want to ignite. I went for a ride yesterday, got to my destination and when starting the hot bike 5min later, noticed it didn't start the same. You guys know how we just know the sound of our bikes. Normally when starting it cranks twice and then BANG...its alive. Yesterday it cranked but it was as if the cranking just got faster and faster until the bike was idling. It hard to describe. Then this morning nothing. Smell petrol all over but nothing, not even an attempt to come to life. I left it for the day and after work tried to start it again and it was the same as yesterday. Cranking faster and faster until it was just idling. Not the BANG I am so used to and love so much.

The plugs are around 500km old. As is the oil and fliters. I don't know if it can be the coil. The plug caps. The leads. What else is there? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
johanl46 said:
Hi guys

My bike refused to start this morning. It was getting fuel cause I could smell it and turned over perfectly but just didn't want to ignite. I went for a ride yesterday, got to my destination and when starting the hot bike 5min later, noticed it didn't start the same. You guys know how we just know the sound of our bikes. Normally when starting it cranks twice and then BANG...its alive. Yesterday it cranked but it was as if the cranking just got faster and faster until the bike was idling. It hard to describe. Then this morning nothing. Smell petrol all over but nothing, not even an attempt to come to life. I left it for the day and after work tried to start it again and it was the same as yesterday. Cranking faster and faster until it was just idling. Not the BANG I am so used to and love so much.

The plugs are around 500km old. As is the oil and fliters. I don't know if it can be the coil. The plug caps. The leads. What else is there? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
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How old is your battery?
 
To be honest its still the factory original. With the ignition on the dash gives me a reading of 12.1. Once the bike idles it runs at around 13.
 
Wow - roughly 10 years on a factory battery? That's incredible.

My gut tells me it's the battery. Even though the voltage may show good, it sometimes isn't cranking hard enough to get those twins going. My 796 was always finicky until I upgraded all the starting wiring with heavier gauge cables.

Maybe try jump starting with your car to remove all doubt?

If it's not those, you could try replacing the plugs, removing the charcoal canister(which has been linked to hard starts) etc...
 
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0612Devil said:
Wow - roughly 10 years on a factory battery? That's incredible.

My gut tells me it's the battery. Even though the voltage may show good, it sometimes isn't cranking hard enough to get those twins going. My 796 was always finicky until I upgraded all the starting wiring with heavier gauge cables.

Maybe try jump starting with your car to remove all doubt?
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Good advice!
 
Ok thank you. Funny thing is...now it starts again but I will keep the jump starting suggestion in mind when it happens again. Please excuse my ignorance but what and where is the charcoal canister?
 
I will replace the battery with the new lithium type as soon as I get a chance.
 
O ok. Yes I checked my owners manual when I got home and we don't have that installed here. I am planning to buy the battery tomorrow. If the problem persists then I will give you guys feedback. Thank you so much for your patience and assistance.
 
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If the starter is turning over the engine then it is probably a spark, air of fuel issue. You can do a couple of things to troubleshoot it. If you suspect the ignition (spark plug, ignition coil ) then you can always pull out the plug and ground it, when you try to start it you should see a spark. Make sure the fuel filter on your fuel pump isn't clogged. Check air filter etc.
 
Was unable to get a lithium battery locally. Spoke to shop owners and they say demand simply don't justify them spending the money. I got a conventional gel battery and the bike is better than new. Thank you very much for the valuable advice.
 
louis041 said:
If the starter is turning over the engine then it is probably a spark, air of fuel issue. You can do a couple of things to troubleshoot it. If you suspect the ignition (spark plug, ignition coil ) then you can always pull out the plug and ground it, when you try to start it you should see a spark. Make sure the fuel filter on your fuel pump isn't clogged. Check air filter etc.
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I went the battery route first before going that direction and I was very lucky that, so far, the problem seems to be sorted, but thank you for your advice.
 

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