2021 DUCATI MotoGP unveil

today:

Looks good

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Gonna be a epic season in GP even a good .... load of mixup in Moto America, SBK and BSB.

with MM still being out and Mir & Fabio hungry, Miller and Pecco on the Factory Duc and Zarco at Pramac on basically factory material...


I CAN'T f*cking WAIT.

too bad we don't have a date for Austin yet!!!

all ducati needs now is a set of bridgestones and they'll cream it

+1 ALL THAT.
I had all kinds of hopes up for certain events last year that obliterated like the phantom sprocket on the other thread. When I finally let all that go and watched, 2020 was pretty cool viewing. The long parade days of MM in front on the 500% boardroom advantaged team and the same 5 on the podium every friggin race was wrist slitting b o r i n g.
There are some decent mixing up of teams and men for 2021, and lots of brothers. Going to be nuts I bet.

Oh ya, now that Vale finally got some advice from Lorenzo, I'm sure he'll start wining again ;P We all just needed to see that. hahaha

Phl said:

with MM still being out and Mir & Fabio hungry, Miller and Pecco on the Factory Duc and Zarco at Pramac on basically factory material...
I CAN'T f*cking WAIT.
too bad we don't have a date for Austin yet!!!

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Unless they find a track to replace Argentina... Brazil maybe, Austin isn't happening. They aren't coming over here for 1 race

Vbreeze said:

+1 ALL THAT.
I had all kinds of hopes up for certain events last year that obliterated like the phantom sprocket on the other thread. When I finally let all that go and watched, 2020 was pretty cool viewing. The long parade days of MM in front on the 500% boardroom advantaged team and the same 5 on the podium every friggin race was wrist slitting b o r i n g.
There are some decent mixing up of teams and men for 2021, and lots of brothers. Going to be nuts I bet.

Oh ya, now that Vale finally got some advice from Lorenzo, I'm sure he'll start wining again ;P We all just needed to see that. hahaha

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yup.

whre's Mark419NY when you need him? or did he get banned?

I have to say I prefer the Panigale for looks. 1st time in a lot of years the GP bike is less of a looker than the SBK IMHO.
I'll have to see it again tomorrow and see if I change my mind. It's in the more masculine boxy shaped design direction that's not doing it for me. Maybe it'll grow on me. My favorite GP bike was the D16 of the Stoner era and a few after that. That was one of the most beautiful bikes ever designed IMO. An acquaintance had one in SF back when they released. Damn what a sound.



Any way the 2021 GP bike ~ oh - the red stripe on the wheel is pretty cool though.

Check the saddle / cockpit. Different. Very minimal top view. I don't want to say it but a little German flavor going on here. It's not bad, just a departure from past style trajectories.
It's getting interesting in parts...


This is serious. This is really cool. I've been waiting for this level of man+machine ergonomics for ages. Check the curves on the side of the tank tangential to the pilot's legs.
Really interesting. Crazy air vent patterns.


Same deal.


Looks like a chair on a rocket hahaa The 3 mixed materials on the complex curves of the forward saddle are really cool.
2 into 1 right side exhaust ? Ya there's an upper and a lower 2 into 1.

There's a lot going on here. Guys, edit. I can't pretend to understand the liquid dynamic factors of the down-force wing-things but omg, can we get one geometry and stick with it?
Checkers. Someone in charge of graphics was like, "hmm there's a space here that's not sponsor real estate, red? Na, checkers. Ya checkers."



It's definitely growing on me. It's a pretty nice bike that they maybe haven't quite figured out how to do the wings integrated into the rest of the design themes IMHO.
There are some interesting changes in types of geometry. It's something Apple started doing a couple years ago. Photos are one thing. In person would be interesting.

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The chequers are a type of carbon weave, as for aero much more effective out in the clear air. Also the widebody rider aero protection is what we need on the street!

Vbreeze said:

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boardroom advantaged team...

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What is this referencing?

Vbreeze said:

This is serious. This really cool..
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It's definitely growing on me. It's a pretty nice bike that they maybe haven't quite figured out how to do the wings integrated into the rest of the design themes IMHO.

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This is EXACTLY the front fairing I designed for my bike last night!!! This is crazy

What part of it do you not get? The air intake is exactly as it should be. The wings have triple the surface area and they don’t have to hang way out to get it. And look how pointed the front of the bike ends up!

I love it!

Holy smokes is that thing w-i-d-e! Sticking a nose in will be a whole new scenario for those Duc pilots, going to bump the others right out of the way.

"Boardroom-racing" is generally referring to modern racing at a level like MotoGP and F1 where teams manipulate rules and negotiate rulings etc to push things to their advantage. It's a strategy that usually favors by a long way the teams with the most money. Start with the 1 tire rule. It's too expensive for a tire manufacturer to make custom tires and only win a few races a year especially the way Dorna has it's business model expensive superscription viewing instead of free to see around the world where the audience size would be 100X what it is now. With only 1 tire company, they "win every race." But what kind of tire will they make? Soft carcass / tough tread favoring Ducati... or a hard carcass / soft tread favoring Honda...? Honda sells what is it, 19,300,000 million anual. Ducati sells around 53,000. Can you see any advantage here for a tire manufacturer to favor one or the other moto company? Stack that with every advantage you can think of and also the ones you can't think of.

craig bush said:

What is this referencing?

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For example, the air intake and the wings have different design treatment. It would be an easy guess they went for an extra function-first design on the wings as it's incredibly difficult to get aerodynamics right also having to think of the new rules on the subject. Note how different the wings are on the Panigale V4SP where they did not have to worry about motogp rules. I'm not in love with those wings either - It's a tech in its infancy so it's like that. I wouldn't kick a PaniV4 Sp out of bed for weird wings, don't get me wrong. It's just kind of an ugly duckling phase of the tech IMHO. It looks like an after-thought like the Pani mirrors. I see them and think - wtf? aftermarket?

Don14R said:

This is EXACTLY the front fairing I designed for my bike last night!!! This is crazy

What part of it do you not get? The air intake is exactly as it should be. The wings have triple the surface area and they don’t have to hang way out to get it. And look how pointed the front of the bike ends up!

I love it!

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Anyone think Dovi will step in for MM? Some interesting scenarios at play...

sounds like an obvious move, but Bradl is already on their payroll and Dovi has gotten in the bridge-burning business, so they won't touch him wit a pole

Haven’t been following much. How did a broken arm turn into what now looks a multi season sideline?

endodoc said:

Haven’t been following much. How did a broken arm turn into what now looks a multi season sideline?

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Returning too soon, a sliding door, re-injuring the arm, more surgeries, and infection.