$99 Rearsets??? Can they really be that bad?

Hey everyone, I've been meaning to replace the foot-pegs because of the obvious slip issue but also because rearsets are great but I really don't mind the stock foot placement.

I ran across these and I wanted to ask everyone's opinion, not to be a cheap-ass (which I know I'm being, sorry I'm a new Dad and kids are expensive ) but with enough Locktite, can these really be all that bad???

Gray CNC Rearset Foot Pegs Rear Set for Ducati Panigale 1199 s R 2012 2013 | eBay

THANKS IN ADVANCE for your feedback gents!

absolutely they can be all that bad, depends on if it's made from aircraft grade alum. Undoubtedly these are made in china so you've no guarantees of what material was actually used. Additionally it seems unlikely they'd have the various bearings and such that go on pivoting parts so you might have issues with galling and friction.

That said, for $99, you could give em a try and see what you think.
Also, they only have 98.7% satisfaction, with 6 negatives in the past 30 days.
I'd be inclined to pass on them myself.

Mitchlguzin said:

Hey everyone, I've been meaning to replace the foot-pegs because of the obvious slip issue but also because rearsets are great but I really don't mind the stock foot placement.

I ran across these and I wanted to ask everyone's opinion, not to be a cheap-ass (which I know I'm being, sorry I'm a new Dad and kids are expensive ) but with enough Locktite, can these really be all that bad???

Gray CNC Rearset Foot Pegs Rear Set for Ducati Panigale 1199 s R 2012 2013 | eBay

THANKS IN ADVANCE for your feedback gents!

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I just put a pair on mine to test, and for commuting (duh...) they have not had any issues.

Will see rough road use and track use in the next 2 months, so i will probably get back to this thrread to report......or complain (hopefully not).

Looks wise it is perfectly fine.
The metal has rather good hardness and the design seems to minimise the risk of sudden breakage.

The biggest issue for me is that i am not sure of the quality of the bolts.
I used the original ducati rearset bolts to bolt it to the frame, so there are no issues there.
That part then mount to the rearset using two supplied large-ish size bolts. Two means redundancies so catastrophic failure risk is minimised, so i am happy with that.
The footpeg, however, naturally only depends on one bolt (albeit having good size), and since it bears the full brunt of my body weight and bumps (particularly big ones on my 170kph full lean corner at the local track) so I'd be looking at changing this bolt to a proper quality one.

Shift and brake wise they are perfectly fine.

Pivot points are all on ball bearings, although there are slight (0.5mm or less) lateral slack, which does not have any effect to movement so far.

Footpegs at the highest setting are up by 2-2.5 cm compared to original. Perfect to offset the 1inch higher comfort seat (to return the body geometry to original seat's).

Brakelight switch is unusable, so i had to replace it with pressure-sensor equipped banjo bolt (10mm length or "short version", 10mm diameter, 1mm thread pitch) and splice it to the original cable. This was the only complication.
The seller did supply a pressure-sensitive washer-type banjo part (how thoughtful!), but I decided (1) it looks ugly, and (2) proper sensor-equipped banjo bolt is better so I bought one ex Yamaha R125 for $10-ish incl. delivery.

Not sure how the anodization quality is, and based on my experience you can expect the colour lightening within 6 months time. Not to an ugly state, mind you, so that's fine with me.

However, as with anything coming from China, you can get lucky for getting good quality, or you can be unlucky and have everything messed up. Quality control is the biggest issue with these. All above are only based on what i got.

And use tons of loctite.

P.S. I used Ottimoto rearsets (ex. hong kong, i think) on my 848 and they stood the test of weekly rough road ride and track abuse for over 3 years. The bearings stayed well, and they lasted longer than my 848. The black anodising turned lighter, but was relatively black, still. And yeah, tons of loctite or the bolts would undo themselves.

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Sorry tapatalk cannot upload proper-specced pictures it seems

They're fricken Chinese!!!!!!! GOD will punish you.

They look decent. I would probably try them $99, it's better than $900.

Marmoot said:

I just put a pair on mine to test, and for commuting (duh...) they have not had any issues.

Will see rough road use and track use in the next 2 months, so i will probably get back to this thrread to report......or complain (hopefully not).

Looks wise it is perfectly fine.
The metal has rather good hardness and the design seems to minimise the risk of sudden breakage.

The biggest issue for me is that i am not sure of the bolt quality.
I used the original ducati rearset bolts to bolt it to the frame, so there is no issues there.
That part then mount to the rearset using two supplied large-ish size bolts. Two means redundancies so catastrophic failure risk is minimised, so i am happy with that.
The footpeg, however, naturally only depends on one bolt (albeit having good size), and since it bears the full brunt of my body weight and bumps (particularly big ones on my 170kph full lean corner at the local track) so I'd be looking at changing this bolt to a proper quality one.

Shift and brake wise they are perfectly fine.

Pivot points are all on ball bearings, although there are slight (0.5mm or less) lateral slack, which does not have any effect to movement so far.

Footpegs at the highest setting are up by 2-2.5 cm compared to original. Perfect to offset the 1inch higher comfort seat (to return the body geometry to original seat's).

Brakelight switch is unusable, so i had to replace it with pressure-sensor equipped banjo bolt (10mm length or "short version", 10mm diameter, 1mm thread pitch) and splice it to the original cable. This was the only complication.

Not sure how the anodization quality is, and based on my experience you can expect the colour lightening within 6 months time. Not to an ugly state, mind you, so that's fine with me.

However, as with anything coming from China, you can get lucky for getting good quality, or you can be unlucky and have everything messed up. Quality control is the biggest issue with these. All above are only based on what i got.

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Thanks for the great feedback on this product, we don't all buy DP as it is over priced (however exceptional quality) and it's nice to know there is other cheaper alternatives out therefor us that isn't ...., I got bagged big time for buying non DP product and have nothing but great feedback on it, no issues what so ever.

Cheers

I don't blame everyone for looking for options. The price of DP and like rearsets is pretty obscene.

zvez said:

I don't blame everyone for looking for options. The price of DP and like rearsets is pretty obscene.

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They are very pretty though...

centeroff said:

They're fricken Chinese!!!!!!! GOD will punish you.

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Dude I am frikkin chinese too
O man, I am so damned......

I paid 6x that for Gilles that were crap, ruined a track day, seized up on me 3 or 4 times (once in the rain far from home). Only after MONTHS did I receive new parts from them under warranty. Replaced those with Ducabike ones, which are better, but also hardly worth the price. You'd think that someone could actually engineer a ....... bearing into a rearset pivot point for the price they charge.

Oh yes--I also had to file down a piece of the Ducabike ones and replace a screw because it was coming in contact with the swingarm.

With that said, I'm guessing these Chinese ones are as good or better than either of the above--and you can have 3 or 4 spares sitting around in case something does go wrong. I used to think you get what you pay for, but not anymore.

AntiHero said:

I paid 6x that for Gilles that were crap, ruined a track day, seized up on me 3 or 4 times (once in the rain far from home). Only after MONTHS did I receive new parts from them under warranty. Replaced those with Ducabike ones, which are better, but also hardly worth the price. You'd think that someone could actually engineer a ....... bearing into a rearset pivot point for the price they charge.

Oh yes--I also had to file down a piece of the Ducabike ones and replace a screw because it was coming in contact with the swingarm.

With that said, I'm guessing these Chinese ones are as good or better than either of the above--and you can have 3 or 4 spares sitting around in case something does go wrong. I used to think you get what you pay for, but not anymore.

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Interesting.... Makes you think for sure.... I think a lot of these parts are made in China..regardless of brand... Seems to cheap though..Doesnt it??

Which is why I picked up a pair of rearsets from HQRacing who is a member on here. Haven't put them on yet since I'm trying to get them anodized still but I may just have to put them on as is. Great price n looks great too. Time will tell in terms of quality n how they hold up.

The old adage that made in China is crap needs to be revised.
I'm employed in the automotive industry and I have seen a good portion of aftermarket parts being manufactured there i.e. radiators, drums, rotors, half shafts and I could go on.
These parts are being used by professional installers not just the DIY folks.

I bought pegs from that same place. Overall not a issue and the quality was fine. Only issue was they were black to start with and in 6 months became brown.

People can bag on them all they want and say they are poor quality but the fact is they are just fine. Half the aftermarket parts made by DP and others we all know is 3x the price it should be. However pride gets in the way of reality...kinda like the issues with the 1199. Keep us posted

I've heard n seen from quite a few people who have purchased china/hong kong made non branded parts and not one seems to have had an issue with their purchased item but the obvious problem amongst almost all of them is a poor quality in anodizing. They seem to always change colors. Even my cheap levers were exact same color as the rizoma blue parts but slowly they are fading. Works just fine still and at $85, I really can't complain. Guess I could always cover my bike instead of leaving it uncovered in my yard since I don't have a garage to put it in.

Nothing was wrong with the actual manufacturing of either the Gilles or my Ducabike rearsets, they are just bad designs. Hell, the Gilles ones are delivered as a big box of parts. As for customer service, Gilles had a recall on them, knowing the part would fail, but either they never notified the vendor or the vendor never notified me. They were both super responsive once I notified them, but due to shipping or what-the-....-ever, the two shipments together took forever. Not sure why parts from China or Taiwan usually arrive in days and parts from Europe take weeks.

In any case, this is the CNC age, so all that one has to worry about is materials. My ONLY concern with no-name parts (regardless of where they're manufactured) is that the last thing they're worried about is being sued if a part fails and someone dies.

As for anodizing, some is better than others, but in my experience, all anodizing fades pretty rapidly in the sun.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd go with DP rearsets. Yeah, they are stupidly expensive, but it seems like there's an issue with 50% of everything I've bought aftermarket and the more experience I have with my 1199 the more I realize that Ducati has done an amazing job with both their engineering and their quality control.

Mitchlguzin. jus get some Rizoma foot pegs which are great. Just placed some on my 1199 and they work just great for slippage. Those are to good to be true bro, rear sets for that price. Wow.....

Materials are probably a small part of the lower price.
But the biggest parts of why they are so cheap are (1) brand (along with whatever cost comes with it including patents, legal costs, legal protection, marketing, distribution, etc), (2) quality control (resulting in quite a bit of wastage), and (3) design and R&D (chinese parts are normally copies).

We did this same debate in RC helis.

The knock off crap cost you more in the long run.

Some things you can get away with longer but I gave up the cheaper material, fit and finish a long time ago.

Levers or foot pegs your probably not going to have any real issues.

Just buyer beware with the knock off crap.

Some things about the rearsets from china. I'm selling these here in europe. (holland). I have them made for me in China. Now i've been doing this for a number of years and came across some items regarding the manufacturing.
First the black color. The problem in china with getting things black is the low cost anodizing. The costs are low because the process is no done completely as it should. The color is usually to thin but more importantly there is likely to be little or no UV Protection. That is why the black fades to copper color after about a year. Unfortunatelly there is no way to tell when you get the item new. Then the brake switch assembly. Many manufacturers copie directly from one another. So if the mistake is in the first part they'll all have it. The thread for the switch hole is not the standard M8. It has a finer thread. The pedals rotate in bearings. In these bearings are small bushes that fill the inner bearing race up to the bolt diameter. The length of the bush is very important. If the length is to short the lever will jam when mounted. If it is to long there is to much play. The bolts supplied with the set should at least be stainless steel or you'll have rust in no time. Especially the frame bolts should be stainless quality. If you don'trust it better use the original bolts. The cheap sets bolt could be anodized bolts but you'll only know this when you get the set. The aluminum type 6061 heat treated is sufficient for this part. A higher grade is possible but will cost more 7000 series aluminum. Hope this clears some questions.