Air Filter fun.....

zohsix01 said:

i like my sprint filter

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Was it free?

Not trying to be a hater, but if you're going to pay for a high performance filter, than you should buy an actual high performance filter...

SPJ said:

I wonder how many people have clogged air filters. My dealer always ticks inspected/cleaned but It clearly hasn't been, stilll leaves & bugs in there & end up doing it myself. I went with a BMC filter (similar/same as K&N I think), has anyone done a direct comparison with the MWR filter? Might look at it for the 1299.

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Yup 2HP gain for BMC/K&N vs 6.2 HP gain for the MWR High Efficiency model.

If you're a racer and you get the new MWR WSBK filter, you gain 11HP - dyno proven.

Naturally, you'll need to adjust your tuning, these MWR power increases are not just from increased airflow, but from directing the air correctly.

If you haven't seen it, I should be able to dig up the data on the Panigale, but it basically broke down to an 11% power differential from vertical to horizontal cylinders because the vertical cylinder was getting incoming air at much high velocity than the horizontal cylinder.

The only filter designed to address this problem is the MWR.

my previous tech told me once, that the imbalance was required, but i forgot for what and what the benefits could be... I think as long as they're not firing at the same time, there is no disadvantage. except less power ...

i love my MWR filter!

Phl said:

my previous tech told me once, that the imbalance was required, but i forgot for what and what the benefits could be... I think as long as they're not firing at the same time, there is no disadvantage. except less power ...

i love my MWR filter!

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"Benefits" would be the wrong word to describe the power imbalance.

"reliability issue", "fuel waster", "power remover" would all be terms more associated to the imbalance.

waiting for my BellissiMoto "care package" as we speak which contains the illusive MWR Filter... its currently strapped to the back of a very slow moving pigeon thats somewhere across the Pacific...think he may have detoured via Hawaii for a feed !

Come on you damn Pigeon !!



and there it is - post number Rossi.

so is the wbsk filter need maintance more frequently than the he? like roughly every how many miles? and is it hard to get the right setup to get as much HP possible?

^^^ I am really curious about this one as well.

Gunny, or the guys from Bellissimoto, are you able to confirm the service interval differences between the HE / Race / WSBK filters?

As always, I greatly appreciate all of your guys knowledge!

any filter other than the stock one, would need more attention - if you're a track junkie, you'll want that filter clean...each and every time you go out, so simple garage maint. is easy enough

street riding, it would probably get dirtier, given the fact that you're probably doing more miles to begin with....any filter other than stock would need more attention for sure...in the New York area, we have all kinds of road debris, not to mention the grey cloudy crap you get if you're lucky enough to be caught in a spring rain that washes the road salt and grime right up into that freshly cleaned filter you painstakingly cared for preparing for spring time

cleaning/service is based on the riding conditions you expose your poor 1199 to....try not to be too abusive....

Guys, I have the new MWR WSBK fitted on my bike and will be running it at PBIR this weekend. I will also have the bike dynoed at the Cycle Gear Orlando Bike night on the Feb. 20th. The bad thing is I wont have a before and after comparison. I had the HE MWR air filter in my bike for over 6k miles, so I should be able to give you a seat of the pants on how the bike feels. Also, PBIR has a pretty long straight away where bike easily sees 180mph +. Ive seen 183mph once or twice. I expect to see --- now. I'll make sure to get some video and impressions of the new MWR WSBK air filter. I'm sure the results will be positive as the HE gave excellent results.

As far as cleaning, I dont care if you are street riding or track, there is no excuse for not doing regular maintenance. I'm lucky enough to have a sponsor(Cycle Pro/RapidBike) that makes sure they check over the bike before my race/track day weekends, but you need to look over your bikes. Cleaning the air filters is very important. We check my filter before every track day/race weekend. For the street, I would do every 1000 miles, at least checking it. On the race bike, with the Sharkskinz, you can use a flash light and look right up the air intake. Like Randy said, it only takes a few minutes to check the filter.

Ljuice26 said:

Guys, I have the new MWR WSBK fitted on my bike and will be running it at PBIR this weekend. I will also have the bike dynoed at the Cycle Gear Orlando Bike night on the Feb. 20th. The bad thing is I wont have a before and after comparison. I had the HE MWR air filter in my bike for over 6k miles, so I should be able to give you a seat of the pants on how the bike feels. Also, PBIR has a pretty long straight away where bike easily sees 180mph +. Ive seen 183mph once or twice. I expect to see --- now. I'll make sure to get some video and impressions of the new MWR WSBK air filter. I'm sure the results will be positive as the HE gave excellent results.

As far as cleaning, I dont care if you are street riding or track, there is no excuse for not doing regular maintenance. I'm lucky enough to have a sponsor(Cycle Pro/RapidBike) that makes sure they check over the bike before my race/track day weekends, but you need to look over your bikes. Cleaning the air filters is very important. We check my filter before every track day/race weekend. For the street, I would do every 1000 miles, at least checking it. On the race bike, with the Sharkskinz, you can use a flash light and look right up the air intake. Like Randy said, it only takes a few minutes to check the filter.

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I agree with everything you say. I have the same filter and posted about a month ago when I fitted it. The problem for me is that I found it a two man job. It is quick if you have a friend with you to help lift the tank while someone unclips the fuel line. Also try to time it with an almost empty tank.

Ljuice26 said:

Guys, I have the new MWR WSBK fitted on my bike and will be running it at PBIR this weekend. I will also have the bike dynoed at the Cycle Gear Orlando Bike night on the Feb. 20th. The bad thing is I wont have a before and after comparison. I had the HE MWR air filter in my bike for over 6k miles, so I should be able to give you a seat of the pants on how the bike feels. Also, PBIR has a pretty long straight away where bike easily sees 180mph +. Ive seen 183mph once or twice. I expect to see --- now. I'll make sure to get some video and impressions of the new MWR WSBK air filter. I'm sure the results will be positive as the HE gave excellent results.

As far as cleaning, I dont care if you are street riding or track, there is no excuse for not doing regular maintenance. I'm lucky enough to have a sponsor(Cycle Pro/RapidBike) that makes sure they check over the bike before my race/track day weekends, but you need to look over your bikes. Cleaning the air filters is very important. We check my filter before every track day/race weekend. For the street, I would do every 1000 miles, at least checking it. On the race bike, with the Sharkskinz, you can use a flash light and look right up the air intake. Like Randy said, it only takes a few minutes to check the filter.

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The new wsbk filter doesn't seem to have the plate that was supposed to redirect the air flow, does it??

bradp51 said:

I agree with everything you say. I have the same filter and posted about a month ago when I fitted it. The problem for me is that I found it a two man job. It is quick if you have a friend with you to help lift the tank while someone unclips the fuel line. Also try to time it with an almost empty tank.

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I've removed the tank and air filter a few times on my own and it not a big deal. Just have to be careful.

pedrin said:

The new wsbk filter doesn't seem to have the plate that was supposed to redirect the air flow, does it??

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It does not have the back plate, but the new foam material on the backside of the air filter acts in the same manner, while allowing more air to pass thru.

Alright, so I've been patiently waiting...

Leon, what are your thoughts on this from the weekend at the track?

I'm pissed because I typed out this long detailed report and lost it. Anyway, the bike performed very well. Pulling hard onto the straight away and having great throttle response everywhere else. Yaman from Cycle Pro/RapidBike was there checking on the adaptive feature after every session and he was also pleased with what he saw. Adjustments throughout the rev range, all the way to 100% throttle. Not one bike was able to pull on me if we were even or remotely close. I have video of another non RB 1199 behind me coming on to the back straight and I walk away, literally. Could be that I'm a better rider, but who is running in advanced and doesn't go 100% throttle at PBIR on the back straight? My buddy Jason, who is an expert in CCS and helping me with my lines told me that if he doesn't get in my draft, I walk away. He rides a zx10. As for lap times, I ran a few 23s, but consistent 24/2s all day. That's fast enough to be top. 3 in super twins/unlimited GP/Ameteur GTO/Superbike A last year at PBIR. At race pace, I probaby could knock off a few more secs. I'm extremely pleased with the results and once we get the air intake system from MWR, we will modify the Sharskinz race upper to allow even more air into the airbox. Should see another bump in performance there as well. First race is March 15/16 at RRR and the front straight is looooooong. Should be interesting...