Austin Racing Inconel Install - Part II

We are off and running......numbers shortly

Off to a fresh start. Thanks.

Waiting patiently for the end-all and final verdict on the $3k+ exhaust upgrade. Hope to see some good figures, good luck from the East Coast!

Yeah good luck Waf, thank you again for doing this and to all posters please let's keep this thread clean! I'm so tired of the BS.

I can see the problem already.... that fan isn't big enough or close enough to your bike bro!

Executive Summary

So to be clear this was the setup:

- unplugged rear wheel speed sensor.
- high speed air into front of bike. (couldn't stand in front of it)
- turned off ABS, EBC and DTC
- ran in Track mode
- ran 98 octane gas.
- bike was nicely warmed up after 2.5 hr ride
- Tuneboy tune

The graphs attached represent my bike with AR Inconel system compared with a customer 1199 of Bunbury Ducati plus one against their 1199 with full system. I am going to post TQ graphs in a separate post. Neither bike was tuned.

1. Stock standard 1199 pipes
2. Termi Slip-ons
3. Termi 70mm full system
4. Termi 70mm full system on Bunbury Ducati bike

The runs on the other bikes were performed on the same dyno but on different days.

I'm pressed for time now so I'm going to post the three compares plus the TQ charts.

The executive summary is:

AR Inconel: 190.90HP/94.80TQ
Stock standard 1199 pipes: 183.80HP/91.11TQ
Termi Slip-ons: 186.91HP/93.18
Termi 70mm Full (latest up-map): 189.78HP/? (sorry missed the TQ chart)
Termi 70mm full system on Bunbury Ducati bike: 193.75HP/96.02TQ

Four key takeouts for me:

1. There is very little between the AR system and my Termi slips, as we saw on our previous dyno run but there is a not insignificant hole in power and an even bigger one in TQ in favour of the Termi Slips.

2. Overall the AR system HP wise performs better than the customer bike from 6800 onwards (tight towards the end). There is a bigger hole between 6-7 on the AR system. (again don't have the TQ graph, will have to source.

3. Compared to the Termi full system, apart from that hole 6-7, the AR pipes can perform better where it counts, although the BD bike did better at peak HP, and if they could sort that hole then it would be a good alternative with sound and weight taken into account.

4. Compared to the Slip-ons the AR system doesn't look great value as overall the Termi-slips perform better from a normal riding perspective.

So on balance I am happy that the AR system has delivered comparable numbers as a full system alternative. Do I wish someone else had spent the $5k to learn this before I ditched the Slips, absolutely

Dyno Charts

Sorry for the screen grabs but the bloody site wont let me post the PDFs as they are too big, will figure it out later and package up in a zip file.

Good for you Carlo, I'm glad you've got reasonable numbers.

Definitely not good value for money compared to the $3500 my full DP cost me but you do have to pay for the exclusivity I guess.

Now you need to find a heat shield big guy so you can ride hard and fast on those hot west Aussie days.

so 3k (AUD) for AR pipe, how much is the tuneboy map? anyone?

Aus1199s said:

so 3k (AUD) for AR pipe, how much is the tuneboy map? anyone?

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~$600 from his website.

Don't forget the Dyno expense, fitment and the yet not priced or manufactured heat shield.

WAfatboy quoted his cost of $5000 so I don't see how you get it for $3000?

That is unless Rich is having a fire sale!

Good number man, too bad you had to shed all that dough for us to see. I still think the AR exhaust looks the best on the Pani, just not sure if I can justify the purchase over the competition.

Still never interesting to see this "Stock standard 1199 pipes: 183.80HP/91.11TQ"

I wonder if unplugged rear wheel speed sensor, does make a huge difference as we could only get 169HP from mine, with the wheel speed sensor still plug in

Do I read the charts right, the Termi slip on is better than the full Termi system all the way up to 10,500 RPM?. Above that there is tiny power gain of 2.87 hp over the slipon. The full Termi seems to be the worst value for money.

WAfatboy.

Your bike has one baffle.

If so do you have the baffle in the left or right side.
I may be completely wrong but having one baffle in the left side would cause the same midrange dip as both baffles.

Sorry guys still having issues with getting the PDFs to the right size!!!

wmcdonal said:

WAfatboy.

Your bike has one baffle.

If so do you have the baffle in the left or right side.
I may be completely wrong but having one baffle in the left side would cause the same midrange dip as both baffles.

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Baffle in the left side as per AR's instructions. Might put the right one in as well if it wont make much difference.

Thanks for the update WAf. Glad to see that this is now settled. So I guess the take away from all of this is all of the attractive exhaust systems will perform similarly and the purchase should be made based on what you want. All systems make similar power.

Also, it's likely that the midrange hole is there to stay in most circumsatnces no matter how many baffles you run(0-2).

Again WAf, thank you and happy motoring. Ride safe bro.

kaido said:

Still never interesting to see this "Stock standard 1199 pipes: 183.80HP/91.11TQ"

I wonder if unplugged rear wheel speed sensor, does make a huge difference as we could only get 169HP from mine, with the wheel speed sensor still plug in

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always plug out for dyno tests.

Thanks for sharing the data.....I was happy with my Termi slip ons prior to knowing such and still feel that way.

Enjoy,