Bike Stalled And dropped

Just got my 600 mile service done on my 2016 1299 panigale a few days ago.. took it out for a ride today to the mall and to run some errands. I was pulling out of a parking lot when the bike stalled in 1st gear. i fully released the clutch at about 5-10 mph when the bike shut off completely. Because it was in gear it was a sudden stop that i couldn't do anything about and i dropped it.. This is probably the 6th time it happened to me only i was able to save it every time. I'm pretty ....... pissed about this because i took the bike to ducati to fix for this exact issue. Broke the mirror, scratched bar end and clutch cover. Brake lever pushed into fairing and went downwards scratching the fairing.
The shop was closed but the sales guys opened the shop up for me so i could leave it there. Ducati better ....... fix this for free and the issue because i'm not about to spend a penny on any of this. Had i dropped it on my own accord no big deal but this is a serious safety issue.. I did it on a busy street and lucky i didn't get hit by a car.

Sorry to hear this. This problem is actually a serious one and unfortunately also an unresolved one.

I had a problem with my 1299s which stopped in 1st gear on the top of the norwegian mountains. Had to ride 60-90km/h for an hour with taking brakes, because of overheating the engine.
The problem was a pin on the outer gear shifter, that was broken off. So they did not need to open the gear box, just one cover on the engine.
I dont know about your problem but I could not change to another gear than 1st.

I don't know know why this isn't a mandatory recall. If a car OEM had engine stall issues, I think it would be a recall situation. I would think NHTSA would ensure it.

you pull the clutch @ 15mph but the bike lock up?you mean the rear tire lock up? , did the clutch disengage the gear? you sure you don't have a clutch problem?are this is your first ducati? maybe not enough fuel to take off?twin like fuel and they like to be rev high, if you pull the clutch they bike will coast so is the bike is coasting how you drop it ? is not that hard to ride at 15 mph with the engine off

now let me tell you what the ducati service rep is going to do :
dealer is going to call him and tell him that you blame ducati for drooping the bike he will tell you to .... you self and laugh at you ( of causer not in your face) he will come to the store to check the bike, he is going to check if the rear tire show sign of lock up, he will ask to check the clutch to see if is working, they will start the bike if your dealer have a dyno like my dealer they will putting in there and ride it like is mean to be ride be prepare to buy a new tire on your dime, if the the bike stall ( i bet you it wont) they will them tell you that they will fix the fueling issued I bet you they will blame you as operator error, now he will ask if you have another ducati before since if you being riding ducati for some time you will know that they all have stalling issue from the 916 to the panigale.
sorry dude but is going be very hard for you to proof that ducati is at fault, just get your insurance claim in.

..I've had this issue with an older 1995 955sp - although it is an issue that Ducati has had for most of the 916/955/996/999....& now up to the 1199 & 1299 - most people that had the issue, traced it to the inherent mismatch of piston size & fueling

Suggest to your shop that they check the Throttle Position Sensor & or whatever they feel is the cause of such a problem

I experienced a stall while in the middle of a U turn, so down it went (955sp) - at the time it was a grey market bike and imported thru Ferraci in PA - they were nice enough to offer the parts I damaged (upper & lower side panels) at cost...but not free

Since your bike has an official warranty, & you were already in the shop for a fix on the issue, you may get a good will olive branch extended to you - Good Luck - I'd like to think Ducati will not disappoint you !

This stalling issue has been discussed a number times and I have included the link to one of them. My bike does it also, generally when taking off and slowing down in 3rd or 2nd gear and when the clutch is pulled in. I have installed Tuneboy on mine to modify low speed fuelling, I am hoping it will fix my stalling issue. One of the guys on this forum experiencing this problem has had his two bikes' IMU and quickshifter changed, and he reckons it has fixed the problem. Interested to hear what your dealer is doing to fix the problem...

http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1299/23518-1299s-shutting-off.html

just make sure there is no modification on the bike they will try to blame even for you finger prints if they can. good luck and until you don't get a result stop posting information here those ....... check this forum all the time.

Strange. Only time this occurred is when my clutch oil needed to be changed and probably had some air. This was during the track day and when I came back in from a session, it stalled because I was going to slow and was in 2nd gear (my fault).

So on a normal circumstances, this problem never happened to me.

Get used to it. The dealers will do nothing and neither will Ducati USA. They won't even officially admit it is even a problem. Mine will stall just sitting there running .
The motors just completely shuts off. If you happen to be taking off from first gear and leaning over to turn you could lose balance and fall pretty easily. I always am very cautious when taking off. Especially when it isn't warmed up first. I think the motor just does not draw enough engine vacuum at idle speeds sometimes. I doubt it is a clutch switch issue with mine since it will sometimes stall just sitting there in neutral idyling.

Speedy

my pani r did this a few times....my solution was to keep the throttle up like i did with my 916, but didn't always work....

My 1299 did it twice early on, low speed in traffic, 1st gear & closed throttle. When the rear locks it's easy to drop it, sorry to hear you have damage.

I've not had the problem recur since Tuneboy was fitted and the bike mapped, IMO the bike wasn't fuelled correctly and the ECU wasn't quick enough to respond. Tend to keep the RPM higher now and slip the clutch when low speed. The spacer kit helps.

This sucks to hear...

My 1299s has about 530 miles and started to stall about 100 miles ago. I believe it is a fueling problem (or vac).

Basically it only stalls AFTER it has been run and then shut off, but the motor is still warm. Upon restart I have about a 1 minute window that I expect it to stall and it is usually when the motor is around 2k RPM. Either when I am bringing the throttle up and releasing the clutch or when I am pulling the clutch in coming to a stop and the revs fall.

During the first minute, I usually use a little more throttle on take off but if I come off the clutch too fast and the RPMs fall, I can feel the dead spot where there is zero throttle response and the engine struggles for a split second.

The first time this happened I was pulling out of my neighborhood onto a busy road and it just stalled. It is very abrupt. I almost dropped the bike as I was turning hard right and the bike turn sharply and drug to a stop. Now that I know it is a problem, I adjust my riding for the first minute or so...

However, on a 26k bike, this should not be an issue. Ducati needs to step the .... up.

early on (in 2012), i got a very slow speed shutoff and almost dropped it. i was ready the next couple of times....and every since then, the problem has gone away.

Mine stalls as well...from a dead stop accelerating, but more so when coming to an abrupt stop. Dealer raised the idle, blah, blah. They don't care to fix it...they added fuel additive haha and I laughed. They are on notice, and if anything happens to anyone while on that bike they will be hearing from me...and this thread will be available during discovery for opposing counsel.

It's not just Ducati, all major manufacturers are the same...they will never admit they have a problem. What makes matters worse is just how dangerous the issue is...similar to the Ford Pinto fuel tank issue. Cheaper to pay a few families a 2 million dollar settlement than it is to fix the problem.

Mine's the same.

Every now and then, coming to an abrupt stop and especially after giving it a handful it will just die. Very disconcerting, embarrassing and most importantly unsafe!

If you log into your Ducati Owners account and if you haven't already filled in the product questionnaire you will notice on the list of problems was extreme over heating and engine shutting off while riding in many of the problems why you wouldn't recommend this bike to any one to buy.

We tried to log into our account but we couldn't show you guys this in our product questionnaire because we have already filled out all the questions in both the production questionnaire and service questionnaire.

Interestingly the questionnaire proves Ducati knows about the "ENGINE SHUTTING OFF WHILE RIDING" problems.

I tried to record the questionnaires (to prove to you Ducati is aware of this problem but is doing .... all to rectify it) but couldn't click on any links because we have already filled out our questionnaires

Here is the login page for Ducati owners, i think it's only for first owners not second hand buyers:

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And yet another very unprofessional non-helpfull post....

I was in the very lucky position today to have a chat with a moto2 race bike engineer. When asking him about the Panigale engine, he said that he is amazed how Ducati could design such an engine (discussion was related to bore/stroke ratio) that would properly idle

According to all the post I have read here it seems that this stalling problem is related to two different problems:
- clutch switch and QS rod switch false detection
- engine is running too slow and too lean when being in idle or going to it

Solving it would mean:
- change clutch and QS switch (maybe some guys might chime in. QS rod switch replacements are available from TransLogic (UK) and Cordona (SE)), I have not found a replacement for the clutch switch assembly. But honestly this is such a simple thing I don't think that Brembo microswitches just started to go mad with the 1299.

- Remapping the ECU. Maybe Ducati doesn't want that to do because of environmental implications.

Another reason for this stalling problem might be a real software bug in the ECU.

My 1199S Tricolore stalled about 4 times in 4 years, the SL stalls occasionally when taking off without enough RPMs because of the low rotating mass of the engine. The Anniversario stalled 5 times within the first 150km.
Hmmm, 1199 vs 1299 problem?

Like i said guys if you log into your Ducati Owners account and fill in the "PRODUCT QUESTIONNAIRE" you will notice Ducati listed "BIKE STALLING WHILE RIDING" as one of the answers to a multiple choice question "I WONT RECOMMEND THIS BIKE BECAUSE OF:".

Ducati knows they have a crap product but wont make the recall because it would cost them over 100 millions to have every single Panigale fixed around the world.

The most dangerous scenario is while your bike is leaning around a corner and the engine cuts off on you, you will drop your freaking bike and worse still get run over by an ... hole in his car texting on facebook !!!

My wife's bike engine cuts off the very frist time i went to pick it up from a dealership as i was about to take off i thought i screwed up or something not realizing she had "ENGINE CUT OFF" problem at the time.

This is a real problem and Ducati will have a major class action suite if someone ends up dying because of it..

The problem is whenever you bring it in the bike invariably will not usually stall when the dealer is riding it (so they can claim there is no problem..)

Mine will stall just sitting there idling sometimes when in neutral...At least on my bike it is not any type of switch for the shifter or clutch etc..

It is a shame but the Panigale is getting a really bad reputation on the various sites... in this day and age most people will get online and check out a bike before they lay down over $25k+ for a bike.

Sooner or later Ducati will HAVE to address this issue either as a result of wanting to get a better reputation or to address various lawsuits... If I am ever involved in an accident due to this issue I will most assuredly sue Ducati...

Speedy