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smash it lol ducati hasn't smashed anything since the 1098r

the GOAT has spoken
 
Mark419ny
hates anything ducati

feels its his job to ruin any thread he can with his Troll powers

Ignore the troll . :D
 
Looks much better without the cross-eyed headlights. At least BMW chose a better path and decided to put out a WSBK spec bike with the matching components like the ohlins setup, gp brembo brakes and the rest of it. Even if it costs more than the SL, the additional components would help justify it better than some unobtanium akrapovic exhaust that comes on the SL. IMO, this is a much better package than the SL....even if it isn't street legal.
 
double0 said:
Looks much better without the cross-eyed headlights. At least BMW chose a better path and decided to put out a WSBK spec bike with the matching components like the ohlins setup, gp brembo brakes and the rest of it. Even if it costs more than the SL, the additional components would help justify it better than some unobtanium akrapovic exhaust that comes on the SL. IMO, this is a much better package than the SL....even if it isn't street legal.
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Cheaper than SL!!! Base price for SL is $89k. Hp4 Race is £68k= about $87k.
Not sure about all the other additional fees for the BMW.


"Thank you for your interest in the Super Leggera. The fact that you already own a Panigale increases your chances of us getting you this bike. There's a possibility that Ducati may require you to be race licensed. Here's the pricing info for the bike.

MSRP: $89,995.00
Shipping from factory to Oahu: $1,495.00
Safety: $13.24
Assembly: $2,488.00
Documentation: $145.00
State Tax: $4,435.70
Registration: $25.50
Total with military discount pricing: $98,597.44
 
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Ok well this at least makes my Ducati 1299SL "..... session" a little more clear. The bike is 87k. It's not street legal. No lights, signals, emissions however those things could be added. The point I made was simple. Ducati chose again to build some gimmicks into a relatively stock bike and charge you up the ... for it. For the same money. BMW basically gave you a works bike. I see race spec materials throughout the motor and chassis. I see the good Ohlins pieces. I see the good Brembo pieces (calipers front and fear and controls). I see a legitimate electrical system and a real cooling system. Ducati chose to give you OEM parts on an 85k bike when they still could have made a hefty profit giving you the good stuff. BMW did a much better job on the wheels as well. No im not a BMW fan and I'm not particularly fond of the aesthetics of the bike but at least BMW is giving a bike where the price point is a lot more justifiable. Ducati is the hands down styling winner no question and I managed to build one as others have that works pretty well. Unfortunately the brand on the OEM side is just overpriced, in many cases, under engineered and certainly under supported by its mfg. The brand needs an overhaul at the top office. The "yes but it's a Ducati" .... is a bit dated.
 
It's probably better to offer Track only bike that you can put street stuff (if wanted) than street bike that you have to get ready for track only bike.

To Mark talking .... yet again - BMW is no where near the front in WSBK racing and hasn't had a podium in like....... can't even remember. They are lucky to be in top 10 where as Pani is in top 3 almost every race.

I wonder how they will compare to Aprilla race bikes that was offered to customers. Either way BMW did it right IMO.
 
Macattack said:
The superleggera is 10 lbs lighter with street trim


Imagine the difference if it was track only :eek:
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And for some reason I believe that this bike is better put together and less finicky than the SL. This looks like a bike that you can trash around all day and not have to worry about it. My buddy has a 2016 RR that he/I run the crap out of on the twisties and it hasn't given him one issue whatsoever. I can only imagine how this bike must go!

I have no problem with the "extra" 10lbs.
 
endodoc said:
Ok well this at least makes my Ducati 1299SL "..... session" a little more clear. The bike is 87k. It's not street legal. No lights, signals, emissions however those things could be added. The point I made was simple. Ducati chose again to build some gimmicks into a relatively stock bike and charge you up the ... for it. For the same money. BMW basically gave you a works bike. I see race spec materials throughout the motor and chassis. I see the good Ohlins pieces. I see the good Brembo pieces (calipers front and fear and controls). I see a legitimate electrical system and a real cooling system. Ducati chose to give you OEM parts on an 85k bike when they still could have made a hefty profit giving you the good stuff. BMW did a much better job on the wheels as well. No im not a BMW fan and I'm not particularly fond of the aesthetics of the bike but at least BMW is giving a bike where the price point is a lot more justifiable. Ducati is the hands down styling winner no question and I managed to build one as others have that works pretty well. Unfortunately the brand on the OEM side is just overpriced, in many cases, under engineered and certainly under supported by its mfg. The brand needs an overhaul at the top office. The "yes but it's a Ducati" .... is a bit dated.
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I read about as much as I could find on both bike . I think they are both cool as hell , but I can not find any supporting info that backs up your assessment.
the suspension is different but afaict the rest of the stuff is equal . heck even the front forks are arguably equal when you take the weight savings of the SL936 forks and the SL has CF ssa . not arguing with you and I know your way ahead of me in knowledge on this because you built a bike from scratch . You seem to hold a little animosity towards bikes ducati builds that are pricy. Its really hard for me to see your point of view. especially since bmw did the same thing and now they are great? carbon fibre frames sucked balls a few weeks ago.
 

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