BMW HP4 - RACE!! (BMW just got pretty)

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Yeah good luck licensing your factory track only bike because you slapped some lights on it. I'd love to see the look on the DMV clerks face. Not hating on the BMW at all, just calling bs on the "it's a better value than SL because I could turn it to a streetbike" argument.
 
If this leads to a 2018 street legal HP4, which I expect it will from reading between the BMW lines, Ducati (et al.) better have a pretty big rabbit waiting and be ready to pull it out of the V4 hat.

Right now, the only contender is the Aprilia RSV4 RF, but if Ducati and BMW show up with the goods, it will be a tough choice to pick a new stable mate.
 
Yeah good luck licensing your factory track only bike because you slapped some lights on it. I'd love to see the look on the DMV clerks face. Not hating on the BMW at all, just calling bs on the "it's a better value than SL because I could turn it to a streetbike" argument.

I believe this bike is a way better proposition than the SL in therms of what you're getting. Pretty much everything about the bike is bespoke. The SL seems more like a parts bin special compared to this.
 
Macattack. You missed my point. Not at all a cheerleader for the BMW. The carbon frame comment I don't get either as I never bashed CF for a frame material. The comment on the SL frame was that the contribution to the Ducati from the addition of a CF frame over the mag frame is nominal. In BMWs case it is much more of a factor. Nothing against CF frames. The fact that the SL CF frame has a replacement cost of close to 10k for what you get is ridiculous. The forks on the BMW are FGR 300s and the shock is a WSBK billet bodied unit. Not even remotely close to what is in the SL. BMW has WSBK Brembo brakes, MCs. Carefully look at the engine and chassis pieces. You will see billet WSBK spec materials. Ducati could have used these pieces on the SL as similar pieces are available from the Corse shop but chose to give you off the shelf, OEM components throughout on a similarly priced bike. From a global perspective,the BMW def igives you more for 90k. Not bashing the Ducati at all. I ride one. Just not overly happy with the way the company treats its customers.
 
I still don't like the looks, i still don't like the engine, and i think it seems boring.
But, by all things holy, that IS light for a monster!

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Macattack. You missed my point. Not at all a cheerleader for the BMW. The carbon frame comment I don't get either as I never bashed CF for a frame material. The comment on the SL frame was that the contribution to the Ducati from the addition of a CF frame over the mag frame is nominal. In BMWs case it is much more of a factor. Nothing against CF frames. The fact that the SL CF frame has a replacement cost of close to 10k for what you get is ridiculous. The forks on the BMW are FGR 300s and the shock is a WSBK billet bodied unit. Not even remotely close to what is in the SL. BMW has WSBK Brembo brakes, MCs. Carefully look at the engine and chassis pieces. You will see billet WSBK spec materials. Ducati could have used these pieces on the SL as similar pieces are available from the Corse shop but chose to give you off the shelf, OEM components throughout on a similarly priced bike. From a global perspective,the BMW def igives you more for 90k. Not bashing the Ducati at all. I ride one. Just not overly happy with the way the company treats its customers.


I appreciate the insight and the polite response thanks.
 
BMW really did go all out on the components on that bike. Those forks are 12 grand, plus another several thousand in triples in order to make them fit. I don't even want to know what that frame would cost. Those calipers are 3k plus a set. Rear shock is major $$$. racing transmission with closer ratios and apparently comes with additional sprockets. If you price out a Nova setup you are out $$$$$. Already set up with data-logging including brake pressure and spring travel. That looks like the Suter WSBK swingarm, which is another 10-15k by itself and doesn't work with the regular exhaust. Haven't even got to the wheels, electronics etc. BMW has a some interesting patents on carbon fiber design. I suspect the mortorcycle is actually just a marketing platform for it. Since there really isn't a way for people to see the frame in a car.

ETA: Just read elsewhere, they will be making the frame available to existing S1000rr owners. No word on cost.
 
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Hmmm. Well lets look at RyFly05 response. What makes a bike street legal? First off this board is full of guys who posted about all the various ways to remove emission components so we can omit that part of the conversation. Please chime in if I missed something but I was under the impression that you need at least one side mirror, a headlight, front are rear signals, a license plate and some sort of tread pattern. These hardly constitute a radical alteration to the bike. My 2006 1000rr was a factory HRC kit bike. I put an integrated tail/signal in the tail. A HID Bicycle light in the nose, a couple of little front indicators, two of my micro mirrors and a plate. I registered it in 06 and have been riding it legally registered on the street ever since. My 1299 is basically the same thing. So It would be very easy to make that BMW (sans emissions) something you could register and easily ride on the street without much money at all.
 
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actually the thread is about the new BMW right? So wouldn't bashers of said be the trollers? Help me understand
 
Hmmm. Well lets look at RyFly05 response. What makes a bike street legal? First off this board is full of guys who posted about all the various ways to remove emission components so we can omit that part of the conversation. Please chime in if I missed something but I was under the impression that you need at least one side mirror, a headlight, front are rear signals, a license plate and some sort of tread pattern. These hardly constitute a radical alteration to the bike. My 2006 1000rr was a factory HRC kit bike. I put an integrated tail/signal in the tail. A HID Bicycle light in the nose, a couple of little front indicators, two of my micro mirrors and a plate. I registered it in 06 and have been riding it legally registered on the street ever since. My 1299 is basically the same thing. So It would be very easy to make that BMW (sans emissions) something you could register and easily ride on the street without much money at all.

I am not familiar with the HRC kit. Was there any sort of inspection? I do find it hard to believe that's all it took to register. Maybe it's different now and depending on where you live. I would think there would definitely be an emissions inspection on top of all the lights/safety related gear. Then there's possible VIN issues, etc. I would imagine it would be a huge headache.
 
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I thought that many xr650 owners made their bikes street legal and were able to register it rather easily by just installing the mirrors, signals, brake lights, and horn... and as a result, Honda added those and sold the xr650l?
 
It just depends on the state you are in. And also whether that bike actually has a VIN stamped on it anywhere. People in California have figured out how to get tags on 2 stroke dirtbikes, I imagine this would be a lot easier.
 
So if someone does happen to decide they will put this on the road, for the love of God, pleeeeeease put normal headlights on it and not the stupid lop-sided crap!!!

Having said that, I agree with Endo, it wouldn't take a radicaL amount of adjustment to put this on the road. My dealership also sells Kawaski. They had a guy ask them to make an H2R road legal and sure enough they did it........... as somone else already mentioned though, I'm not entirely certain of things like the emmissions/noise, but it rolled out of there with mirrors, license plate and the exhaust from the H2
 
Heck we plate dirtbikes here in Washington all the time. I used to ride a plated CR500 two-smoke on the streets till I gave it to my younger brother.
 
Is there anybody wanting to ride these kinds of things on the road and ride it legally??? Except for the Starbucks ride maybe. All this street legal thing is nonsense to me. In fact, I find it odd anybody wants to justify their existence by reasoning this or that way. This and the SL and some other bikes are not for the street, and IMHO not for everyday track riders either. Toys for the lucky ones. I wish I was one...
 
Is there anybody wanting to ride these kinds of things on the road and ride it legally??? Except for the Starbucks ride maybe. All this street legal thing is nonsense to me. In fact, I find it odd anybody wants to justify their existence by reasoning this or that way. This and the SL and some other bikes are not for the street, and IMHO not for everyday track riders either. Toys for the lucky ones. I wish I was one...

You're telling me you ride legally all the time on your 1199S? How is it any different?
 
My 1199 is track only. I have a 250cc scooter for the city that I sometimes might ride legally, but that was not the point. These top notch sportbikes are only competing in how much above practical use they are capable of performing in the unlikely scenario of all conditions matching. So I see no point in justifying their price or mere existence.
 
I doubt you'll see any of these on the street. If you can throw down the change you can have a street bike too. Why bother converting. Have a SL for the street and the HP4 for track.
 

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