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Happened to me once with my 748R racebike. And have seen that happening several times. I mean the real cause.

To me with rear brake. Race footpegs had been recently installed. But apparently brake lever was in a position that reservoir hole was closed in master cylinder. Some laps, brake fluid expansion and rear brake caught in fire and jammed the rear wheel.

Once I saw one guy making a front flip at the end oh fast main straight at 240kmh. Totalled his R1 there. In previous weekend he had dropped his bike at the pit on to the right side. Front brake lever was a bit bend, but he thought it was just the end of it. But apparently in a way that it also blocked the reservoir hole and jammed front wheel.

And I personally have seen several cases like this, betting my money in this case resulting hub overheating and melting spokes.
 
I remember another BST wheel failure at Thunderhill a number of years ago. It was also quite catastrophic. But, let's be real, this can happen with most wheels.

I find the rider's theory of liability interesting,but not all that likely to succeed. I believe he is saying that Ducati is liable for the rear brake failure and that the rear brake failure cause the disintegration of the wheel. If that is the case, Ducati would be liable.

However, there are so many possible reasons why the brake overheated (if that is what happened), it will be difficult to prove that Ducati's negligence in the design or manufacture caused it. Isn't it just as likely that the person servicing the rear brakes put the pads in the wrong way, or installed the rearsets improperly so that the brakes were dragging?


Anyway, bottom line is that everyone on the track should be give their own bike a once over before heading out onto the track. It is your own health that is at stake.
 
Well I fell of my trumpet at rockingham last September. Bent and snapped rear brake lever. The master cylinder to lever mount broke leaving them disconnected. I made sure the M/c wasn’t fouled and stuck on and rode home. On the way the remains of the lever moved and put pressure on the M/C putting the brake on slightly. Needless to say it bound on the A1 and was glowing like a ........ The heat transfer to the rim and tyre was unbelievable. I couldn’t touch the rim. So I can well believe the CF can get very hot.

Someone mentioned helicopter blades. Well they are ‘lifed’ like many components. After so many flying hours they are scrapped. I used to work on a helicopter that also had a composite main rotor head (carbon fibre, fibreglass mix), when more efficient but heavier blades were fitted to it a ‘penalty life’ (ie 1 flying hour with heavier blades was equal to 1.5 flying hours with Normal blades) was applied to the rotor head. This meant that the rotor head could be serviced earlier/scrapped as required before failure. As a rule metal fails over time progressively, composites catastrophically fails. Example being when you exceed the elastic limit metal will bend and not return to its original shape CF just fractures. Just like when I left the disc lock on my 1299s!
 
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TheLaw said:
....... If that is the case, Ducati would be liable.
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Modified Bike on a Race track. Search in the PDS and under what is covered:

d) Installation of components/accessories and modifications to the bike that are not approved by Ducati;


f) Bikes used in any kind of sporting competition;
 
DStyleNZL said:
Modified Bike on a Race track. Search in the PDS and under what is covered:

d) Installation of components/accessories and modifications to the bike that are not approved by Ducati;


f) Bikes used in any kind of sporting competition;
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None of that means anything in an American court of law, if any of this goes in that direction..
 
DStyleNZL said:
Modified Bike on a Race track. Search in the PDS and under what is covered:

d) Installation of components/accessories and modifications to the bike that are not approved by Ducati;


f) Bikes used in any kind of sporting competition;
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As ChrisE said, in California, that disclaimer dopes not automatically absolve Ducati from liability.

You are generally not allowed to prohibit the use of aftermarket components in California or to deny a warranty claim just because of an aftermarket component unless they contributed to the damage. It is possible that the rearsets contributed or even were the cause, but I can't tell from my armchair.

Similarly, riding on the track is not necessarily "a sporting competition". We don't know whether he timed his runs, much less tried to "compete" against anyone else. He had the number 58 on his bike, but unless his name is Simoncelli, it is unlikely he ever raced it.
 
Oh my god. I installed all this stuff on my bike myself, changed loads of sh*t and now I'm really mad Ducati won't pay for a wheel I bought off Ebay that fits a Ducati installed by a man in a shed blew up and wrote my bike off...........
 
Oh come on, I'm just saying what everyone is thinking. Perhaps I could of been nicer...... but that is a ridiculous claim. As soon as you say racetrack 'click' the phone is down
 
Calderara di Reno said:
Oh my god. I installed all this stuff on my bike myself, changed loads of sh*t and now I'm really mad Ducati won't pay for a wheel I bought off Ebay that fits a Ducati installed by a man in a shed blew up and wrote my bike off.......

Mutt, they are Americaaans, no one is responsible for their own actions .
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My lord I hope we are better than that. Yes many Americans. Cough cough millennials feel this way. However I would hope that our neighbors realize that not one country is better than the other. Well maybe other than Poland. They seem to have their act together.
 
Yeah, back on topic....

Firstly I apologize, I admit I was harsh. But you will never get a claim like this to stick. IF, and that’s a big if, you could somehow prove a Genuine Ducati part had failed that then caused your mishap you have a slim chance and only if any other performance parts were also DP and installed by Ducati themselves. The fact you were on a racetrack will cause you problems from the outset.

Ducati are a big corporate machine and have a big legal department. They won’t pay out unless they have to.

Going back on o the OP, I’m sorry, but you don’t really have a leg to stand on.....
 

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