I am looking out for a guide to inspect my 2023 Panigale v4r clutch plates. Is there any detailed guide which explains the torque specifications to remove the plates, and the height measurement for each plate ? I am new to this, as I always had wet plates before this and I only used to replace the ones which were used up, which I think would be the same case here.
Dry clutch teardown and inspection for 2023 Panigale v4r
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Thanks. I did search on it, but it seems like the thread in which the manual was mentioned wasn't available and it was a pirate link which need to be paid. And I am not even sure who I am paying, so any other help?
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I don't know you or your mechanical abilities and given your opening statement im not so sure. So with respect I may be talking double dutch here.
You'll need a clutch holding tool to dismantle if and when required.
Other kit including a vernier gauge, is required to measure. Once you learn to do this its literally a 10 sec job with no need to dismantle anything.
A lot of the maintainance is monitoring the wear through the stack height. It starts at a height the thickness of all the plates together, As it wears the thickness of the friction plates decrease.
It is possible to measure the height of the complete stack whilst installed and under the pressure plate pressure. If you do this as new you get a measurement A ie the depth of the plates below the leading edge of the clutch drum. this number increases as the plates wear. Generally this number is around 5mm on a new set of friction plates.
After usage its a ten sec job to measure and monitor this height and its change as the friction plates wear. As the steel plates are all 1.5mm, but 2mm are available, it is possible that when the combined friction plate loss becomes more than 0.5mm, you can swap a 1.5 steel for a 2.0mm to regain the original height.
simples!
You'll need a clutch holding tool to dismantle if and when required.
Other kit including a vernier gauge, is required to measure. Once you learn to do this its literally a 10 sec job with no need to dismantle anything.
A lot of the maintainance is monitoring the wear through the stack height. It starts at a height the thickness of all the plates together, As it wears the thickness of the friction plates decrease.
It is possible to measure the height of the complete stack whilst installed and under the pressure plate pressure. If you do this as new you get a measurement A ie the depth of the plates below the leading edge of the clutch drum. this number increases as the plates wear. Generally this number is around 5mm on a new set of friction plates.
After usage its a ten sec job to measure and monitor this height and its change as the friction plates wear. As the steel plates are all 1.5mm, but 2mm are available, it is possible that when the combined friction plate loss becomes more than 0.5mm, you can swap a 1.5 steel for a 2.0mm to regain the original height.
simples!
Thanks a lot. I do have experience with other bikes, but never worked on a dry clutch. I have seen a few videos on removing the dry clutch by removing the middle large nut. Once the nut and the rubber gasket, the vernier guage can be used to measure the height of the each plate. I've also seen that some plates are worn out more in the inside area and less on the outside. So I've seen that some people just move the front plates to the rear so that they wear out more or less even. But none of the videos mentioned the minimum height for each plate and the torque specification to re-install the nut. But from what I understand from your message is that, I do not have to remove the entire plate set. I can just remove the clutch cover, hold the clutch lever in place and monitor the stack height? Dont you remove the steel plates to switch them? Also, I get that the default height for the steel plates are 2mm, but what is the minimum height that I can use till, till they are worn out. Would it be 1.5mm or lower? Similarly whats the minimum height for the friction/fiber sintered plates? I've seen the below video for my reference and my questions arise from this:
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STM Clutch plates and Basket Replacement Interval for 2023 Panigale v4r
I have a 2023 Panigale v4r and I've completed around 3800km on track till now. No issues with the dry clutch, but I am wondering how often does the dry clutch need to be changed. I do keep checking the size of the plates, so I believe 5-6k km is decent. But what about the basket in which it...
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I think. you are over thinking it.
1 Its new measure
2 you start using it monitor the wear
3 when the wear exceeds .5mm service by removing the plates clear the dust reorder them change a 1.5 for a 2.0 remeasure when rebuilt
repeat
when you are adding your 3rd or 4th 2.0 steel buy a new complete set of frictions or all new plates start again.
1 Its new measure
2 you start using it monitor the wear
3 when the wear exceeds .5mm service by removing the plates clear the dust reorder them change a 1.5 for a 2.0 remeasure when rebuilt
repeat
when you are adding your 3rd or 4th 2.0 steel buy a new complete set of frictions or all new plates start again.
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