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I thought all the 1199's have slipper clutches? The Tri most certainly has.
EBC level comparisons to inline4s
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I thought all the 1199's have slipper clutches? The Tri most certainly has.
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True, but doesn't that have the same effect of loading the front and reducing trail?
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They do have slippers all panigale do.. I believe he is referring to an aftermarket slipper as some kits really up the amount of slippage
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EB won't hurt your trail braking, it is basically like a rear brake. And I often use the rear brake from the point of turn-in to apex.
I don't use it straight up and down (no weight on the rear), but after I have initiated turn-in and I'm trailing off the front brakes, I'll introduce some rear brake to help slow/pull the bike to apex. That method is really handy on decreasing-radius corners.
On bikes with no slipper clutch and no way to manipulate EB via electronics, I will modulate the clutch to apex, using EB as a rear brake. As I trail off the front brakes, I modulate the clutch release to apex.
I don't use it straight up and down (no weight on the rear), but after I have initiated turn-in and I'm trailing off the front brakes, I'll introduce some rear brake to help slow/pull the bike to apex. That method is really handy on decreasing-radius corners.
On bikes with no slipper clutch and no way to manipulate EB via electronics, I will modulate the clutch to apex, using EB as a rear brake. As I trail off the front brakes, I modulate the clutch release to apex.
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this is definitely true. every bike I've owned in the past 5-6 years have had slipper clutches, and while they will prevent engine braking from locking up the rear, it takes a very, very sharp jolt that unsettles the bike, to get a stock slipper clutch to slip.
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EBC on 3 is a must for fast track riding. Engine braking changes the geometry too much too fast. On my previous twins I would manage engine braking with the clutch, pulling the lever in on downshifts and releasing it slowly. So much easier with electronics!
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The 899 was terrible in this regard. This 1299 I can take my hands off the bars for a stretch and it just rolls like a IL4.
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Edit apologizes I always forget about the 899 hah
The topic on whether or not to use engine brakes in a corner is debatable. There are many ways to take a corner. TOTW vs Motovudu? 
I find that charging into the corner while using maximum engine brake to complete the turn is much safer than trail braking into a turn. I have been trying different settings and I am comfortable with EBC set as 1...
I find that charging into the corner while using maximum engine brake to complete the turn is much safer than trail braking into a turn. I have been trying different settings and I am comfortable with EBC set as 1...
I'm guessing fuel injection is cut off, EBC only allows air to flow in by opening throttle.
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??? EBC opens the throttle slightly (with fuel injectors on) to get rid of the back compression - it depends on how much by the setting you are on. I am quite sure the effect on your fuel consumption would not be noticeable.
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It is, I was just curious
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