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Ya I was just typing that ~ This is the LA I remember from the '90's.
Social moment "Hi are you in the movie industry how can I use you?"
Within :15 seconds "Ok let's fight." <<knives-out>>
Then everyone creative from San Francisco moved to LA and mellowed it out.
 
It was such a paradise. (not Skid Row, the state) I can’t say I comprehend the news. The new laws. The lawlessness unchecked. ‘Tfs going on there? Is it as bad as it looks online? Target, big banks, leaving the state. Crazy.
 
Vbreeze said:
It was such a paradise. (not Skid Row, the state) I can’t say I comprehend the news. The new laws. The lawlessness unchecked. ‘Tfs going on there? Is it as bad as it looks online? Target, big banks, leaving the state. Crazy.
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The cancer of authoritarian collectivism.
 
craig bush said:
The cancer of authoritarian collectivism.
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Not sure how loosening criminal laws is authoritarian but…

Every populated area is going to have good areas and bad areas. It’s easy to .... on people stuck on the bottom bc they don’t get represented.

For example, Italy has bad homelessness just like LA and SF. It just has a better welfare system and doesn’t get as much media attention.

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www.voanews.com

Hundreds of Refugees, Roma Homeless in Italian Eviction Drive

Volunteers running Baobab camp in Rome say that police forcibly evicted about 150 refugees and undocumented migrants and bulldozed their makeshift shelters, with majority having nowhere else to sleep
www.voanews.com www.voanews.com
 
It’s funny, I travel around the country for work, and frequently I’ll have clients that watch too much Fox News literally say “I’m sorry for you that you live in California”

My reply is always the same: “yeah it’s just horrible living in the best economy in the country where in the same state our Farmers produce the most food in the country and our tech industry leads the world, (think about that spectrum for a sec), and we have gorgeous weather, mountains, beaches, deserts, redwood forests and every other kind of natural wonder to play in, you are surrounded by beautiful educated people with incredible cultural diversity, the taxes are high but the economy is so big and robust that you have to not try at all to do well financially, our healthcare system, our farming, our tech industry, our business environment, our manufacturing, our construction industries all lead the nation, our tax dollars support all the poor red states welfare programs, and our economy is the 4th largest in the World if California were its own nation.

Yeah it sucks to live in California, but only if your are the type that doesn’t try in life and just wants to be spoon fed in life. 😂😂😂

Don’t let the conservative pundants fool you, they WANT you to believe that California is a failing state so you you reject the Democrat entrenched policies. Make no mistake though, we lead the nation in almost every single category relating to quality of life.

That’s not me supporting Californias liberal politics, I’m an old school Republican never Trumper…but it’s straight up conservative propaganda saying California is failing lol

If we are failing while leading the nation and most of the world at nearly everything, what does that say about the rest of the states 😂😂😂

Sure, you can find homeless camps if you go looking for them…that’s true in every state, especially where the weather is nice. Like Florida too btw.

But there are no homeless camps anywhere other than a few isolated neighborhoods that get far too much attention from people LOOKING for something to troll about California

No homeless camps in my back yard or as far as the eye can see

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☝️☝️☝️ California sucks, feel sorry fir me having to live here lol
 
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IDK about homelessness but at its core is a political problem, there are always going to be people at the bottom of the pile, those with mental health problems, ex cons, victims of crime and layoffs, the lost and broken of our world and also those looking for a way in but havent got money. Some cultures have very low rates of homelessness but other places have plenty but its common all over the world in big cities for pretty much the same reasons. Jakarta has millions that live on the street!
 
Paul G said:
IDK about homelessness but at its core is a political problem, there are always going to be people at the bottom of the pile, those with mental health problems, ex cons, victims of crime and layoffs, the lost and broken of our world and also those looking for a way in but havent got money. Some cultures have very low rates of homelessness but other places have plenty but its common all over the world in big cities for pretty much the same reasons. Jakarta has millions that live on the street!
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Rio are Janeiro has one million homeless CHILDREN.

In California there are very few people that are homeless from being ‘down on their luck’ or economically disadvantage, most of those get housed by both private and public services…the entrenched homeless population have deeper issues like severe drug and mental health issues where they literally refuse to utilize housing services.

Very hard to help people refusing help.

And yet places like China and Japan have almost zero homelessness, largely because the family unit structure is more intact, so if someone in your family has drug or mental health issues the family sorts it.
 
High GDP seems to somewhat coincide with high homelessness. I’ll take the economic opportunity over homelessness all day

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Steven31371 said:
It’s funny, I travel around the country for work, and frequently I’ll have clients that watch too much Fox News literally say “I’m sorry for you that you live in California”

My reply is always the same: “yeah it’s just horrible living in the best economy in the country where in the same state our Farmers produce the most food in the country and our tech industry leads the world, (think about that spectrum for a sec), and we have gorgeous weather, mountains, beaches, deserts, redwood forests and every other kind of natural wonder to play in, you are surrounded by beautiful educated people with incredible cultural diversity, the taxes are high but the economy is so big and robust that you have to not try at all to do well financially, our healthcare system, our farming, our tech industry, our business environment, our manufacturing, our construction industries all lead the nation, our tax dollars support all the poor red states welfare programs, and our economy is the 4th largest in the World if California were its own nation.

Yeah it sucks to live in California, but only if your are the type that doesn’t try in life and just wants to be spoon fed in life. 😂😂😂

Don’t let the conservative pundants fool you, they WANT you to believe that California is a failing state so you you reject the Democrat entrenched policies. Make no mistake though, we lead the nation in almost every single category relating to quality of life.

That’s not me supporting Californias liberal politics, I’m an old school Republican never Trumper…but it’s straight up conservative propaganda saying California is failing lol

If we are failing while leading the nation and most of the world at nearly everything, what does that say about the rest of the states 😂😂😂

Sure, you can find homeless camps if you go looking for them…that’s true in every state, especially where the weather is nice. Like Florida too btw.

But there are no homeless camps anywhere other than a few isolated neighborhoods that get far too much attention from people LOOKING for something to troll about California

No homeless camps in my back yard or as far as the eye can see

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☝️☝️☝️ California sucks, feel sorry fir me having to live here lol
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A ringing endorsement of life in California from a one-percenter who can easily afford to isolate himself from many of the problems. Does the average Californian (median salary ~$75k annually) share your rosy outlook?

Are the business closures in SF, rampant crime, and declining population all propaganda?

Why is it that included among the states highest in population loss are California and New York, while Texas and Florida are included among the states with highest gains?

And lemme guess - the conflict in Ukraine is about preserving democracy? 😜
 
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I lived in SF 20 years and always heard the wives tales about how they ship the lazy-crazy homeless from other states and all that. It's actually not true. I used to work with Gavin Newsom's office who did the only real research I've seen on the subject. Most homeless in California are local Californians who've simply gone through the grinder. Rents doubling and loosing a job is the most common trip to the street. If most are getting housed now that's a new one to me. Last I heard the homeless population was increasing. Though I heard a plan in SF to create homeless housing in the down town offices newly vacated. I mean wow. This is the kind of news that's hard to imagine. That city is changing very rapidly.

EU is a whole other situation entirely. Italy has thousands of economic refugees pouring in from African countries. They get make shift boats within Italian waters and sink them, then call for rescue. This by the Geneva convention gets them automatic refugee status. They move across Europe into Scandinavia where they have an even better welfare system and they park.
The other kind of homeless popular here are families who just escaped Russian tanks. In the '90's it was Yugoslavian wars. The parks used to be filled with them. I used to take them water and hang out and listen to their insane stories. I haven't heard any real solutions yet for California or Europe.

As Steven mentioned, I'm a big fan of "Japan have almost zero homelessness, largely because the family unit structure is more intact."
That's what everyone needs. I see that here for the most part as well among Italians. I only knew one "homeless guy" in Florence. He was a poet who would get drunk and recite poetry all night in front of Santo Spirito cathedral. He refused any sort of hand-out and was quite content. One night it started snowing at 3AM. I saw a light across the square turn on, an older gentleman in his robes stomping across the square, grabbed the poet with both hands and dragged him to his house were he stayed a few days. That's how it should work.
 
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craig bush said:
Are the business closures in SF, rampant crime, and declining population all propaganda?
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Yes.

As a middle classer in the Bay Area I’m happy to live here. Are there problems with homelessness? Sure. Are people trying to fix this? Yes.

As opposed to Texas (and Florida) where there’s literally authoritarian politics like gerrymandering, book burning, circumventing the legislature, actively kidnapping refugees (and transporting them across state lines). But sure, .... on California…
 
Vbreeze said:
That's hilarious. I used to do that too. "Yes, California sucks, stay away."
There are some really choice spots.
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Vbreeze, you live in a country with literally Nazis running the country

www.reuters.com

Italy's Meloni picks Nazi-armband lawmaker as junior minister

Galeazzo Bignami, a lawmaker of the rightist Brothers of Italy party who sparked outrage in 2016 after a newspaper published a picture of him wearing a Nazi swastika on his left arm, was named junior infrastructure minister on Monday.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
SuperDomestique said:
Not sure how loosening criminal laws is authoritarian but…
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Sometimes two things can be true at the same
time. Leftist policies tend to politicize the law, so criminality in those likely to support the state (like vagrants in SF or murderers in the BLM riots) go unprosecuted, while enemies of the state (like the q-anon shaman) are persecuted to the maximum allowable limit for relatively minor offenses.

Leftist policies are historically authoritarian in that they remove choice and reduce individual liberty in pursuit of the greater (collective) good.

Has it become easier or harder to open a business in California under one party (leftist) authority?

Did you have more freedom regarding your choice of healthcare insurance before or after Obama care?

How much of the income that was take from you in taxes and redistributed to the banks after the 2008 collapse has been returned to you since the recovery?
 
No you can't even look at politics here. It's more surreal than a Hollywood film. There is every flavor and all at once.
Coming form the two parties who look a lot like one party system of the US, it's quite a contrast.
But what's your point? I don't get the correlation.

SuperDomestique said:
Vbreeze, you live in a country with literally Nazis running the country

www.reuters.com

Italy's Meloni picks Nazi-armband lawmaker as junior minister

Galeazzo Bignami, a lawmaker of the rightist Brothers of Italy party who sparked outrage in 2016 after a newspaper published a picture of him wearing a Nazi swastika on his left arm, was named junior infrastructure minister on Monday.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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