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@jrkk preload is ALWAYS measured from none or no preload to installed preload. If you see it indicated differently, for example in an owner's manual, this is likely due to making things more simple for the owner.
 
jrkk said:
This might be obvious, but there was some confusion about showa preload in ducati owners manual. So max preload is clockwise. And also they have reduced spring rate for 22 model, I had to set almost max preload with my19.
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Yes ive double triple checked. I have it at max setting now. Do you know where i can find the spring rate for the 22 model? Or do you know what it is?
 
@Kemoz17 alternate springs are not available for stock Showa suspension. You will need to upgrade to an Ohlins NIX30 cartridge or FGRT fork.
 
Here is data for My22 v4s. Not sure is base model same.

The new fork has 125 mm of travel (+5 mm compared to the fork of the Panigale V4 2021). This enables softer adjustments (the spring rate has been reduced from 10,0 to 9,5 N / mm)

And here is confusing owners manual text what I meant.
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roadracerx said:
@Kemoz17 alternate springs are not available for stock Showa suspension. You will need to upgrade to an Ohlins NIX30 cartridge or FGRT fork.
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Ok never knew this. I have done some research and seen the. Bitubo cartridges allow 13mm more travel have you had any experience with this?
 
@jrkk the quoted info is likely a translation issue....it should read "To change the preload of the spring inside the each fork leg, turn the hex adjuster CLOCKWISE starting from the fully open position". 125 mm of travel is simply just 5 mm more travel than before. Rider sag should be 42 mm instead of 40 mm on 120 mm travel forks.
 
@roadracerx would you say I should set up the suspension after the break in service? I tried booking with my local suspension guy and he said come back after I've done the break in service. 2022 base V4.

Also after setting the correct sag and stuff what settings would you recommend for compression/rebound?

I am 180 ish LB geared up and I mainly set PB's to a starbucks 100km of fast winding highway away :)
 
@thejellyo I set up the suspension on day one and change the engine oil after 100 miles on a new bike. Rebound is a science, compression is feel. When setting fork rebound the fork should return from the input to settle and not bounce, rear matches front. Compression setting depends on your usage; for street I generally set compression 4 clicks less than track. I don't have exact numbers to give you because every fork/shock can be a little different. Given your situation I would recommend you set bike and rider sag front and rear and start with the recommended reb and comp in the manual and work from there. Feel free to give feedback on how the bike turns and the quality of bump compliance in this space. Keep in mind the 2022 model has extended travel in the fork, therefore, recommended rider sag increases from 40 mm to 42. Given your weight at 180 lbs with gear you will need to reduce preload at both ends.
 
roadracerx said:
@thejellyo I set up the suspension on day one and change the engine oil after 100 miles on a new bike. Rebound is a science, compression is feel. When setting fork rebound the fork should return from the input to settle and not bounce, rear matches front. Compression setting depends on your usage; for street I generally set compression 4 clicks less than track. I don't have exact numbers to give you because every fork/shock can be a little different. Given your situation I would recommend you set bike and rider sag front and rear and start with the recommended reb and comp in the manual and work from there. Feel free to give feedback on how the bike turns and the quality of bump compliance in this space. Keep in mind the 2022 model has extended travel in the fork, therefore, recommended rider sag increases from 40 mm to 42. Given your weight at 180 lbs with gear you will need to reduce preload at both ends.
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Thank you! I will forward this to my suspension guy and go from there.
 
Hi there,
I have base 2022 Panigale V4 and i weight 127 lbs. I just do highway ride on the weekend morning by myself and minimal street riding. No tracks at least for the foreseeable future.

Can you recommend a setting for my suspension?

Thanks for creating this wonderful thread. I really feels great to have something like this in times likes ours nowadays.

Regards,
Danny
 
yellowbalt said:
Hi there,
I have base 2022 Panigale V4 and i weight 127 lbs. I just do highway ride on the weekend morning by myself and minimal street riding. No tracks at least for the foreseeable future.

Can you recommend a setting for my suspension?

Thanks for creating this wonderful thread. I really feels great to have something like this in times likes ours nowadays.

Regards,
Danny
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On my 22 model base v4 went with the settings in the manual for track and was spot on, couldnt of got it better without upgrading so im sure the street settings in the manual will be just fine
 
Kemoz17 said:
On my 22 model base v4 went with the settings in the manual for track and was spot on, couldnt of got it better without upgrading so im sure the street settings in the manual will be just fine
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My store couldn't find any owner's manual which is why i didn't have one. Very strange.
 
@roadracerx, would an increase in suspension travel warrant more sag in the 2022 V4S? Wondering if I should go 30 or 35 mm since it has an extra 5 mm travel on the new fork. Also hoping the lighter springs on the 2022’s Ohlins allows me to hit these sag numbers
 
@RODOLFO where are your sag numbers? Adding preload to put a bit more weight on the front can work but I typically add a couple of clicks on the compression IF the sag is correct. Same solution for front dive.
 
Huh… I’m actually with the limits of the stock springs w the 22 V4S then. Thanks again for the knowledge and advice!
 

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