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Tricolor3SF said:
We're supposed to be the more advanced country right?!
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you still use checks and run on 110V ;)

a friend of mine moved to europe two years ago, after having spent all her life in the USA. she was totally shocked how modern the "old world" was / is.

in germany you can also get "aral ultimate 102" or "Shell V-Power Racing 100 Oktan" at the pump
 
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Tricolor3SF said:
Why don't we have 95 and 98 octane at our pumps in America ?! We're supposed to be the more advanced country right?! What's with freakkin 91 octane only, and rideing to redwood city is not my idea of filling up!!!
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We use different ways of calculating octane (copied this from the interweb):

"It turns out that in Europe, the octane number posted is determined by the RON method (if you live in Europe, check the small print on the gas pump next time you fill 'er up. Wait, filling it up requires taking out a loan nowadays...). In the USA, the number posted is according to the "(R+M)/2" method. Turns out that this is simply the average of the RON number and the MON number. So, would the MON number typically be lower than the RON number? The answer is....yes! Apparently, for modern fuels, the difference between RON and MON (also called sensitivity) is about 10 (RON is higher than MON). Knowing this, we can now calculate the following:

87 octane in the USA = 92 octane in Europe
89 octane in the USA= 94 octane in Europe
92 octane in the USA = 97 octane in Europe

Go figure, huh? It seems these regular and premium fuels have roughly the same octane rating after all."

Gulf Coast, is this correct?
 
At Silverstone the Murco garage inside the circuit sells 103 octane race fuel at one of the pumps. I'm assuming the Panigale will choke on this stuff as its not setup for such high octane fuel. Anyone knowledgeable about this?

The dire warnings about additives in the owners manual are probably in connection with the Nikasil coating on the Aluminium wet cylinder liners. The sulphur in poor quality fuel causes the Nikasil coating to breakdown and once this happens the resulting high friction between the piston and cylinder liner will cause high wear and engine death. This was the demise of many Jaguar engines in the 70's. I don't think they're allowed to put sulphur in fuel anymore and so this probably isn't an issue. However, if you're using fuel additives or fuel with additives be careful about what they contain.
 
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Thanks jjmontesanto for the eye opening explanation!! So If I drive down to kings 76 station and put 100 octane in the panigale I can fly it to the moon? Or it will blow up?
 
Phil said:
you still use checks and run on 110V ;)

a friend of mine moved to europe two years ago, after having spent all her life in the USA. she was totally shocked how modern the "old world" was / is.

in germany you can also get "aral ultimate 102" or "Shell V-Power Racing 100 Oktan" at the pump
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Yes, it's true. We also have running water and electricity, even in England;) - although cheques are being phased out rather quickly.
 
jjmontesanto said:
We use different ways of calculating octane (copied this from the interweb):

"It turns out that in Europe, the octane number posted is determined by the RON method (if you live in Europe, check the small print on the gas pump next time you fill 'er up. Wait, filling it up requires taking out a loan nowadays...). In the USA, the number posted is according to the "(R+M)/2" method. Turns out that this is simply the average of the RON number and the MON number. So, would the MON number typically be lower than the RON number? The answer is....yes! Apparently, for modern fuels, the difference between RON and MON (also called sensitivity) is about 10 (RON is higher than MON). Knowing this, we can now calculate the following:

87 octane in the USA = 92 octane in Europe
89 octane in the USA= 94 octane in Europe
92 octane in the USA = 97 octane in Europe

Go figure, huh? It seems these regular and premium fuels have roughly the same octane rating after all."

Gulf Coast, is this correct?
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Very impressive Sir!! Most places quote octane value as a RON (research octane number) whereas the USA quotes, as you say, (R+M)/2. M = motor octane number. So 85 US pump = 90 RON and 91 US = 95 RON.

Just a few useless facts. Putting much higher octane fuel in an engine that is not designed for it will not necessarily increase power as its more down to fuel density than octane number. However, put a lower octane fuel in and you will lose power.
The dreaded benzene that we're all so scared of has an octane number of 101 so it's a pity for petrol heads that oil companies have to spend a fortune getting it out of petrol / gas.
If you really wanted to fly hydrogen has an octane rating over 130!!!!!!! But I wouldn't advise filling the old Pani up with the stuff!! :eek:
And finally as I'm a Brit I can tell you in the UK motorists pay 85% of the price straight to the Government as tax - the highest in Europe!!
 

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