Here she is... BEAUTIFUL..!!

+1 here too. A lot of hard braking on trackdays make for sore wrists before the end of the day if you don't let the tank hold you back. Chaotic, you made my day with the best chuckle...."like a monkey ....... a football". Great analogy!

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I do, and I always move my rearsets up a little (ground clearance) and as far FORWARD as possible.

Many people assume racing rearsets should be up and back. However, moving them forward helps you get a more stable base and allows you to take weight off your hands. The more underneath you your feet are, the less pressure you have to put on your hands. Which means you can have a lighter grip on the bars (which helps the suspension work better and the bike turn better).

Think about standing up, then squatting down into an athletic stance (like the bottom end of a squat rep). You will be able to stand there with your arms/hands loose and free.
Now....try to move your feet backwards. You will either have to rest your hands on something, or you will fall over.

Apply that to the bike.

Having the rearsets forward not only puts you in a more athletic stance, but it makes it easier to use your feet to transfer weight and move around (rather than your arms).

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Brilliant! Thank you Sir. The squat analogy really helps things make sense.
I ride intermediate trackdays but have never tried a set of rearsets.
Perhaps a gander to the woodcraft site is in order!
Thanks again.

Chaotic said:

I do, and I always move my rearsets up a little (ground clearance) and as far FORWARD as possible.



Many people assume racing rearsets should be up and back. However, moving them forward helps you get a more stable base and allows you to take weight off your hands. The more underneath you your feet are, the less pressure you have to put on your hands. Which means you can have a lighter grip on the bars (which helps the suspension work better and the bike turn better).



Think about standing up, then squatting down into an athletic stance (like the bottom end of a squat rep). You will be able to stand there with your arms/hands loose and free.

Now....try to move your feet backwards. You will either have to rest your hands on something, or you will fall over.



Apply that to the bike.



Having the rearsets forward not only puts you in a more athletic stance, but it makes it easier to use your feet to transfer weight and move around (rather than your arms).

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Do you find any excessive "plowing" or understeer with COG that far forward when initiating a corner? Do you have a stiffer front fork setup or anything to compensate? I guess as I type this I remember understeer with the front being too light as well... Just wondering if you find anything different on heavy braking or cornering and, if so, what you do to compensate.

Def going to give this adjustment a shot.

SuperDuc29 said:

+1 here too. A lot of hard braking on trackdays make for sore wrists before the end of the day if you don't let the tank hold you back. Chaotic, you made my day with the best chuckle...."like a monkey ....... a football". Great analogy!

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love2ride said:

Brilliant! Thank you Sir. The squat analogy really helps things make sense.
I ride intermediate trackdays but have never tried a set of rearsets.
Perhaps a gander to the woodcraft site is in order!
Thanks again.

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Just keep in mind that some rearsets (and I believe Woodcraft is one of them) don't allow much additional forward movement over stock.

I love the Woodcraft as far as cost, strength/durability and ease of finding parts. But when it comes to adjustability, the Driven and Sato's seem to provide more.

JDBeretta said:

Do you find any excessive "plowing" or understeer with COG that far forward when initiating a corner? Do you have a stiffer front fork setup or anything to compensate? I guess as I type this I remember understeer with the front being too light as well... Just wondering if you find anything different on heavy braking or cornering and, if so, what you do to compensate.

Def going to give this adjustment a shot.

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Actually, the COG doesn't change much. My butt is in the same part of the seat and I grip the tank with my thighs...only my feet have moved forward about an inch. It doesn't sound like a lot, but it makes a huge difference in how much I can relax my arms.

But with that being said, yes I run a stiff front. I believe we currently have 1.10's in the forks on both bikes.

A few updates after 1,500 miles....

This bike can be trail braked SOOOOOO hard, it's ridiculous. I'm a front end kind of rider... As long as my front end is working, I assume the rear will take care of itself and just follow along. The feel from the front is superb.. Tons of feedback, lovely steering, absolutely fantastic... Can't wait until I can get it to the track to see if the bike performs the way I think it will.

Still trying to get my ear attuned to the sounds of the engine.. I'm still having to look at the rev counter to stop hitting the rev limiter.. But that's down to the fact that the bilke revs so quickly from 9,000 to 11,500 rpm..

When you DO get it right and hit your shifts perfectly, MAN does this thing fly!!! Staying WFO through the gears, this thing just has zero let-up.. On my S1000RR, things happened fast, but on the 1299 you have to change gears SO fast, it s like a shifter Kart..!!!!

All the power is in the last few millimeters of the throttle, you HAVE to crank that puppy all the way... Other bikes I have ridden had a mainly linear throttle action, but the 1299 has the action weighted towards the very last piece of throttle opening.

The more I ride this bike, the more I bond with it. I am having to re-learn how to ride this thing, due to the engine.

The traction control is magical compared to my S1000RR.. It is barely noticeable; sometimes the only way I know it's working is the flashing yellow/orange light on the display. The wheelie control is brilliant so far, but again, I will have to see how it works at the track.

I thought I would have got used to the lightness, but no... Every time I hit a series of bends that require you to flick the bike from side to side, I am gobsmacked... It transitions almost telepathically, no heaving, grunting, muscling required.. It just moves when and where you want it to.

The brakes are bomb-proof and utterly confidence inspiring and that's with the stock pads.... Can't wait to try my two favorite race compound pads (Carbone Lorraine C59's and the Galfer 1375 ceramic white compounds).

More to come later.

Getting some good miles clocked in! Even on the 1199 the DTC is very unnoticeable, getting on the freeway yesterday I was seeing Amber lights and thinking hmmm that's interesting, lol. When's your first trackday on the new beast? Looking forward to hearing your feedback after the trackday.

Even on the track I've not seen the DTC lights come on yet. These bike are as stable as a clydesdale. You will never want to leave the track

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I thought I would have got used to the lightness, but no... Every time I hit a series of bends that require you to flick the bike from side to side, I am gobsmacked... It transitions almost telepathically, no heaving, grunting, muscling required.. It just moves when and where you want it to.

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+1 - this bike makes my ZX-10 feel like a truck

80shilling said:

Well, just a couple of hours before I can ride her away... Lovely bike in the flesh; everything looks like it's top quality...

Riding impressions and reports, plus plenty of photos from my HWY1 trip for her break-in to follow over the next couple of days.

Cheers.

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Is it just the pic angle or the upper fairing looks different from the 1199s out there?

desmodromic system said:

Is it just the pic angle or the upper fairing looks different from the 1199s out there?

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A lot different. It's similar to the 1199 with the wings installed, the ram air ducts are bigger, the fins below the headlight now connect and the mirror mounts have changed.

Slightly over 1,800 miles now and it's getting better and better.

The engine has freed up a lot; it is revving quicker/faster and is producing less underseat heat. The wheelie control is fun to play with.. 3 is what I am running on the street, but I have tried it at 2, 1 and 0... HOLY CRAP!!! at 0... hold on and keep your right foot poised over the rear brake.

With traction control set at 1, wheelie control set at 2, ABS set at 1 and in race mode it's a beast, a monster, a barely controlled/controllable psychopath, waiting to strike... I freaking LOVE it....

Still running Shell full synthetic 15w-50? No oil usage?

fzr100098 said:

Still running Shell full synthetic 15w-50? No oil usage?

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My dealer said that the break-in oil was some special brew and replace it with 10W-40 Shell full synthetic; they say 15W50 is too much for this climate.

80shilling said:

The engine has freed up a lot; it is revving quicker/faster and is producing less underseat heat. The wheelie control is fun to play with.. 3 is what I am running on the street, but I have tried it at 2, 1 and 0... HOLY CRAP!!! at 0... hold on and keep your right foot poised over the rear brake.

With traction control set at 1, wheelie control set at 2, ABS set at 1 and in race mode it's a beast, a monster, a barely controlled/controllable psychopath, waiting to strike... I freaking LOVE it....

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Haha, the 1299 is a no compromises race bike for the street (and track), and it's addicting

Is DWC too intrusive at 4 in your opinion?

fzr100098 said:

Haha, the 1299 is a no compromises race bike for the street (and track), and it's addicting

Is DWC too intrusive at 4 in your opinion?

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i like to have the front end come up a bit.. It's part of the fun, so DWC at 4 is less fun than I like... No oil useage at all by the way.. Not a drop.

nice bike! (12 pages late)