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Prince Albert said:
What is this "velocity stacks" you speak of ?
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I haven't done any searching to see if they are available for the Panigale or not. But all of my race bikes have aftermarket velocity stacks, on street bikes I have never bothered.

Here is a basic rundown of them...
velocity stacks motorcycle

They come in various lengths and to get the most out of them, a reputable tuner needs to experiment with various combinations (short/medium/long) to see exactly what works best on your bike (unless there is a proven combo that has already been tested).

Velocity Stacks are along the lines of other things like Ceramic Bearings, undercut Trans, lightweight battery, cut/skimmed rear rotor, Titanium bolts etc. In other words, none of those individual things are going to make a tangible different in your laps times in and of themselves. But together they are part of the overall package that makes a kickass race bike. :)
 
The Panigale needs a little more than different velocity stacks. The airbox needs to be modified this can be done by buying a modified tank or modifying your exsisting tank .
Stick with the 41 tooth sprocket cockring .
 
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Do you have a link to a thread where that airbox modification is discussed? This is my first Panigale and I am not familiar with that.
 
Thanks for that link, I will check it out.

I agree, especially when we are talking about a bike that already makes 200hp. I likely won't even go into the motor. I will do the normal race prep things to reduce weight and then have a map built for MR12 and race it. I am sure my tuner can probably get 210-212hp at the wheel with some dyno time and MR12.
 
Perhaps.

But I know he got close to 200hp out of an 1199 with tuning and race fuel.

Regardless, at the end of the day, there isn't much difference between 200hp and 205hp. If you can't win with 200hp, 205hp isn't going to get you there. I will be happy with whatever he ends up with because I know it will be a smooth, linear powerband.

Unfortunately, lots of the guys I am racing against are on bikes making 200hp (and more in some cases). I race against several built ZX10's, BMW's and GSXR Superbikes. Which is why I have had my hands full on the RSV4 (that makes about 175hp on MR12). I have been able to pull out some victories on smaller tracks. But on larger tracks, I end up losing several bike lengths on the straight, then almost making it up on the brakes and in the corner, then losing more on the next straight...and it becomes a yo-yo effect.
 
Congrats OP to your beautiful machine and your wonderful description of the 1299.
I live vicariously through you!

Chaotic said:
Really appreciate the detailed feedback.

Well, kind of......you are making me wish mine was here even worse. :mad:

:D

Question on comfort/ergos, how tall are you (im 6'2")?

The BMW was built using the 2005 GSX-R1000 as a platform...and those ergos are very similar, if not identical. I had a 2006 Gix 1k (same as the '05) and loved it.

In other words, if you are saying the ergos on the 1299 are better than the BMW, then from that I can ascertain it will be just fine for me.
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Chaotic, I enjoyed reading your posts on the aprilliaforum and same can be said so far on this 1299 forum.
I'm not in the market for a new bike but am a bit worried about ergos. The 1x99 and 899 are so thin that us tall guys look quite strange on them.
I'm 6'3" myself.

I fit ok on my R6 since the tank is so wide. The 1098 also fits me well I feel. But these new super thin bikes have me worried if I will ever be able to fit on them once I can afford one.
 
wilkson said:
Have a look at this tank it will give you the idea Aluminium Fuel Tank (20L) with Carbon protections - Motocorse - parti speciali ducati, mvagusta e bmw, ammortizzatori e forcelle ohlins, freni brembo, cerchi marchesini

It is quite a exercise but gains can defiantly be had but as you have mentioned money most likely be better spent on coaching and tyres unless your chasing to win a championship
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Do you have this installed Wilk? If so may I see a pic of it installed.
 
love2ride said:
Chaotic, I enjoyed reading your posts on the aprilliaforum and same can be said so far on this 1299 forum.
I'm not in the market for a new bike but am a bit worried about ergos. The 1x99 and 899 are so thin that us tall guys look quite strange on them.
I'm 6'3" myself.

I fit ok on my R6 since the tank is so wide. The 1098 also fits me well I feel. But these new super thin bikes have me worried if I will ever be able to fit on them once I can afford one.
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Thanks for that. :)

Have you sat on a Daytona 675?

I was concerned about how thin the 1299 would be until I was racing at TalladegaGP earlier this year and a guy had an 899. He let me sit on it and I really liked it (and placed my order as soon as I got home). To be honest, it felt exactly like my 675 (which is a good thing).

For sure, us bigger guys will always look like a monkey ....... a football on these bikes. :D But the most important thing is that we are comfortable under braking and hanging off, and I think the 1299 will be ok (just like the 675 is).
 
Chaotic said:
Thanks for that. :)

Have you sat on a Daytona 675?

I was concerned about how thin the 1299 would be until I was racing at TalladegaGP earlier this year and a guy had an 899. He let me sit on it and I really liked it (and placed my order as soon as I got home). To be honest, it felt exactly like my 675 (which is a good thing).

For sure, us bigger guys will always look like a monkey ....... a football on these bikes. :D But the most important thing is that we are comfortable under braking and hanging off, and I think the 1299 will be ok (just like the 675 is).
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Cheers mate.
I have sat on the 675 and it fit me alright I suppose. I don't have any extended time on it however.

With your bikes, do you use rearsets? What position? Up and back or down and back etc?
Sorry for the threadjack OP!! I can move the convo to PMs if it bothers you.
 
80shilling said:
Correct, it's Hattar/Marin Speedshop. I can PM you later this evening... I'm just waiting for them to finish prepping the bike, then I'll take a quick 50 mile blast up to Point Reyes and back to test her out.
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Miss the Tam, Hwy1, and Novato Bl to Petaluma rides :)
 
love2ride said:
With your bikes, do you use rearsets? What position? Up and back or down and back etc?
Sorry for the threadjack OP!! I can move the convo to PMs if it bothers you.
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I do, and I always move my rearsets up a little (ground clearance) and as far FORWARD as possible.

Many people assume racing rearsets should be up and back. However, moving them forward helps you get a more stable base and allows you to take weight off your hands. The more underneath you your feet are, the less pressure you have to put on your hands. Which means you can have a lighter grip on the bars (which helps the suspension work better and the bike turn better).

Think about standing up, then squatting down into an athletic stance (like the bottom end of a squat rep). You will be able to stand there with your arms/hands loose and free.
Now....try to move your feet backwards. You will either have to rest your hands on something, or you will fall over.

Apply that to the bike.

Having the rearsets forward not only puts you in a more athletic stance, but it makes it easier to use your feet to transfer weight and move around (rather than your arms).
 
I picked up my bike last night .
I love it
what 80Shilling said about the quick shifter was spot on.

I've always thought it was not something I would really like .

I was completely wrong . IT is works amazing and shocks me how much it adds to the fun factor.

the comfort on this bike is blowing me away too. but I haven't been on a ducati since the 98 series - this the most comfortable sprort bike I've ever owned. I'm sure it is the same as the 1199 with a comfort seat though
 
Chaotic said:
I do, and I always move my rearsets up a little (ground clearance) and as far FORWARD as possible.

Many people assume racing rearsets should be up and back. However, moving them forward helps you get a more stable base and allows you to take weight off your hands. The more underneath you your feet are, the less pressure you have to put on your hands. Which means you can have a lighter grip on the bars (which helps the suspension work better and the bike turn better).

Think about standing up, then squatting down into an athletic stance (like the bottom end of a squat rep). You will be able to stand there with your arms/hands loose and free.
Now....try to move your feet backwards. You will either have to rest your hands on something, or you will fall over.

Apply that to the bike.

Having the rearsets forward not only puts you in a more athletic stance, but it makes it easier to use your feet to transfer weight and move around (rather than your arms).
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I'm no track instructor, just a slow intermediate at best...but I fully agree.
 

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